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Photo Forum / Film Photography / 35 mm / September 2007Ping: Annika1980
Recognize this: http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 Larry Thong, or whatever... This thing is like about $7 US. What'd you pay for that thing you use? Doug > Recognize this: > http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 > > Larry Thong, or whatever... This thing is like about $7 US. What'd you > pay for that thing you use? LOL! A fool and their money are soon parted. If Bret would stop buying into every bit of gimmickry that comes along and follow the 18-month rule he'd be shooting with the totally awesome paid in full Mk III instead of the totally dilapidated and constipated 20D. Rita On Sep 14, 6:05 am, Rita ? Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote: > > Recognize this: > >http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Rita You have to admit Rita. Bret could use ANY camera and still produce a jaw-dropping work of art. No arguments from me that the 1Ds MK lll is indeed a fantastic camera, but it's still the photographer who makes or breaks the shot. I've seen work from someone who uses the 1Ds MK lll and it was less than mediocre. Helen > You have to admit Rita. Bret could use ANY camera and still produce a > jaw-dropping work of art. AND, he's using his current camera to take photos instead of spending all day on eBay. >> You have to admit Rita. Bret could use ANY camera and still produce a >> jaw-dropping work of art. > > AND, he's using his current camera to take photos instead of spending > all day on eBay. Yeah, but his talent still doesn't measure up to his hype. >>> You have to admit Rita. Bret could use ANY camera and still produce a >>> jaw-dropping work of art. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Yeah, but his talent still doesn't measure up to his hype. Tongue-in-cheek statements like, "Who rules?", and "The fabulous 20D" don't seem much like "hype" to me, but whatever......... > >> You have to admit Rita. Bret could use ANY camera and still produce a > >> jaw-dropping work of art. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Yeah, but his talent still doesn't measure up to his hype. Believe the hype, baby! >>>> You have to admit Rita. Bret could use ANY camera and still produce a >>>> jaw-dropping work of art. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Believe the hype, baby! Meh. He's no Rockwell. >>> You have to admit Rita. Bret could use ANY camera and still >>> produce a jaw-dropping work of art. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Yeah, but his talent still doesn't measure up to his hype. I totally disagree and harshly protest against that statement. He bragged about using a "fixed" and unauthorized copy of CS3 to avoid paying for it. His public admission of such crime is fact and fully demonstrates his talent for circumventing the system. Rita >> You have to admit Rita. Bret could use ANY camera and still produce >> a jaw-dropping work of art. > > AND, he's using his current camera to take photos instead of spending > all day on eBay. LOL! Trust me, all my equipment does get a vigorous daily workout. I'm starting to wonder if Bret is having sex with his totally awesome 20D instead of spending valuable time with his wife and friends. Now that adds a new dimension to "creamy bokeh" that even the 85/1.2L II can't muster up. Rita > Recognize this:http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 > > Larry Thong, or whatever... This thing is like about $7 US. What'd you > pay for that thing you use? A bit more. Looks like Mr. Fong has a patent-infringement lawsuit if he wants to pursue it. You see, the Gary Fong Lightsphere is kinda like me ..... Often imitated, never duplicated. * Annika1980 is quoted & my replies are inline below : >> Recognize this:http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You see, the Gary Fong Lightsphere is kinda like me ... > Often imitated, never duplicated. Bret - while we are talking about the LS I have a question I have been meaning to ask. I remember you posting a macro pic using the LS with flash. I seem to recall it worked well, or at least acceptable. Wondering if it was just the LS on the flash mounted on the camera directly, or do you have an off-camera mount for your flash. The lighting in your macro shots is great and I'd like to learn how you achieve that. How did you point the flash? Did you use the "lid" to the LS? Any other tips?  SignatureTroy Piggins * Troy Piggins is quoted & my replies are inline below : > * Annika1980 is quoted & my replies are inline below : >>> Recognize this:http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > How did you point the flash? Did you use the "lid" to the LS? > Any other tips? BTW my macro lens is the Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro and camera is 30D, flash is 430EX. SignatureTroy Piggins > Bret - while we are talking about the LS I have a question I have > been meaning to ask. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > How did you point the flash? Did you use the "lid" to the LS? > Any other tips? Yes, the lid works best for macro shots since you can place it only a few inches from the subject. It's like having a nice little light dome or light tent. I usually use the flash off-camera, either with the off-camera shoe cord or the ST-E2 transmitter. The hardest part is holding the flash in one hand and the camera rig in the other. * Annika1980 is quoted & my replies are inline below : >> Bret - while we are talking about the LS I have a question I have >> been meaning to ask. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > cord or the ST-E2 transmitter. The hardest part is holding the flash > in one hand and the camera rig in the other. Seems that off-camera is the go. I've been hoping that something like the LS attached, tip the flash down a little from vertical at say 75deg/60deg, and the diffused light sideways would be enough. Obviously it's not. Just wanted to save the cost of a flash bracket. SignatureTroy Piggins > Yes, the lid works best for macro shots since you can place it only a > few inches from the subject. It's like having a nice little light > dome or light tent. > I usually use the flash off-camera, either with the off-camera shoe > cord or the ST-E2 transmitter. The hardest part is holding the flash > in one hand and the camera rig in the other. Get a flash bracket and a cheap ballhead and you'll have one hand free to do as you wish with it. Even a Fong can benefit from a bracket/ballhead combo. Rita > Recognize this:http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 A little research shows that the Lambency diffuser is a direct ripoff of Gary Fong made by some Chinese company. Even the pics on their website are stolen from Gary Fong's site. Having said that, i would heartily recommend that you add a diffuser of this type to your arsenal, D-Mac. Maybe it would get rid of those harsh shadows in your wedding pics. Whether you get the original or the Chinese counterfeit version is up to you. Let your conscience be your guide. >> Recognize this:http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the Chinese counterfeit version is up to you. Let your conscience be > your guide. Do these diffusers work any better than the old, low-tech method of a clean, white cotton hankie over the flash ( one stop for each thickness of cloth) ;-) > > Recognize this:http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the Chinese counterfeit version is up to you. Let your conscience be > your guide. I agree that there are shadows I can't get rid of in some of my shots. The (unacceptable) alternative (using a 20D) is to crank up the ISO and produce horrible shadow noise. It's a sad thing that I took Mark Morgan's advise and started using the 580EX flash. It has turned out to be a far worse choice than the Metz I used for 20 years prior. Today's wedding will see the Metz back in use. You can't beat God for light. As long as where I shoot is in a darkened room or very late in the afternoon, I'll never get sufficient light from a 580 to totally diffuse it and still get to use ISO 100. The S5 Fuji is worse in this area than the Canon 20D. I'm just waiting now for the Nikon new to be released and evaluate whether I'll buy one or a 1D Canon. Whichever I choose, it's high ISO performance will be the deciding factor. No flash diffuser is ever going to remove shadows when the flash sits 6" above the prism and you shoot in portrait orientation. You are right though... I do have issues with getting enough light and softening it too. Aussie reception centres all seem to have black or very dark ceilings and 6 volt lighting... Not to mention the 150 decibel speaker output! Doug > It's a sad thing that I took Mark > Morgan's advise and started using the 580EX flash. It has turned out > to be a far worse choice than the Metz I used for 20 years prior. > Today's wedding will see the Metz back in use. What don't you like about the 580EX? > I agree that there are shadows I can't get rid of in some of my shots. > The (unacceptable) alternative (using a 20D) is to crank up the ISO > and produce horrible shadow noise. It's a sad thing that I took Mark > Morgan's advise and started using the 580EX flash. It has turned out > to be a far worse choice than the Metz I used for 20 years prior. > Today's wedding will see the Metz back in use. I agree the 580EX and it's latest replacement really aren't a decent flash. You should seriously consider shooting with a few SB800s and Pocket Wizards. Most of the problems you are experiencing can easily be cured with multiply flash. If multiply flash is impractical in fast moving environments you might want to consider a single flash with Larry Thong's "DoubleThong" diffuser with beam splitting technology. Rita On Sep 15, 8:59 pm, Rita ? Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote: > > I agree that there are shadows I can't get rid of in some of my shots. > > The (unacceptable) alternative (using a 20D) is to crank up the ISO [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Rita The Metz system is absolutely for me. I understand it, can bounce from a brolly with it while still having a filler and it doesn't "pretend" to be something it isn't. No doubt you know that the 580 defaults to 1/60th whenever you change a lens, even if you have it set to "high speed" sync which doesn't work as anything other than a % fill flash. I spend more time with my thumb on the + - dial than concentrating on what I'm doing. It really is a pathetic flash. To proudly proclaim it meters "Thru The Lens" and then force you to switch the camer to manual mode and let the "auto" function of the flash do the light control is a joke. The Metz is far more accurate at measuring it's light output and way more reliable reporting the flash is ready as the batteries drain. At around 250 firings (2700 mAh Nickel Metal Hydrides) the 580 EX lights it's ready light before it has enough charge to take a correctly exposed shot. My Metz doesn't do that. There simply isn't enough control over the 580 EX to rate it a professional product. IF I do buy a Nikon, I'l llook into their speedlites. Everyone tells me how superior the Nikon system is to Canon in that are. Doug > IF I do buy a Nikon, I'l llook into their speedlites. Everyone tells > me how superior the Nikon system is to Canon in that are. The Nikon system is worlds better. What's really amazing is a hell of a lot of Canon shooters have been buying Nikon Speedlights. An amazing site for getting all you ever wanted to know about flash photography can be found at www.strobist.com. Rita On Sep 16, 10:02 am, Rita ? Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote: > > IF I do buy a Nikon, I'l llook into their speedlites. Everyone tells > > me how superior the Nikon system is to Canon in that are. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rita OK... Suppose I buy a Nikon Speedlite to use on a 5D and 20D, do you know what is needed in the way of pin disabling and how compatible the 2 actually are? Doug >> The Nikon system is worlds better. What's really amazing is a hell >> of a lot of Canon shooters have been buying Nikon Speedlights. An [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > know what is needed in the way of pin disabling and how compatible the > 2 actually are? Neither flash system is compatible with the opposing brand body. This just means they will work and fire just like any other third party flash. If you want or need iTTL or eTTL than stick with the right flash system for the camera you are using. Pocket Wizards and www.strobist.com will eliminate all your suffering. Rita > Recognize this: > http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 > > Larry Thong, or whatever... This thing is like about $7 US. What'd you > pay for that thing you use? Question: Can it be used to hold hot and cold beverages - it looks like it does! Signaturehttp://www.petezilla.co.uk On Sep 15, 2:13 am, Peter Chant <REMpete...@CAPpetezilla.ITALSco.uk> wrote: > > Recognize this: > >http://search.ebay.com.au/200150807661 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > --http://www.petezilla.co.uk I understand it is about equal in usefulness to a polyurethane cup as a flash diffuser. +1/2 a stop for the cup! Presumably the diffuser won't hold fluid so I suppose in true contest, it is likely to be less useful than a cup. Doug |
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