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GETTING SMALL WITH GARY FONG !

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Annika1980 - 14 Aug 2007 04:32 GMT
Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere:

http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83868715/original
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 14 Aug 2007 04:50 GMT
> Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere:
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83868715/original

2 words come to mind:
AWE-INSPIRING, MAGNIFICENT!
WOW, you outdid yourself Bret!
Helen
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 14 Aug 2007 04:53 GMT
On Aug 13, 11:50 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere:
>
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> WOW, you outdid yourself Bret!
> Helen

It's totally up to you whether you want to participate or not, but
someone mentioned a contest by National Geographic.  Honestly, you
would blow the competition away!
Helen
PixelPix - 14 Aug 2007 10:13 GMT
On Aug 14, 1:53 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 13, 11:50 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> would blow the competition away!
> Helen

....and then they would give the prize to someone else. :-(

I entered one once and the prize was a week long shoot in Sth America
with a NG photographer.  Before they announced the winner they
contacted me from Singapore and said "We can't tell you that you have
won (wink wink), but we need a copy a full size copy of your image for
reproduction, a release to use the image, a copy of your passport and
confirmation that you would be available to travel on the required
dates."

They then asked for my email address and when I said the domain
(pixelpix.com.au) they said.... "Oh, you have a web site.... has this
image been posted online?"  I said yes, but I had not sold it in
anyway.  The response to that was "Ohhhh....." and that was it.

The next day they announced the winner and it wasn't me.  :-(

I checked back through the comps terms and there was nothing to say
that a pro could not enter, nor did it say anything about the image
needing to be "secret squirrel" prior to the comp.

So if you enter a NG comp, be warned!
Pudentame - 14 Aug 2007 15:03 GMT
> On Aug 14, 1:53 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Aug 13, 11:50 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
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>
> So if you enter a NG comp, be warned!

Should have read the contest rules.  It's in there.

The one with the shoot in Guatemala:

• To qualify, photographs submitted must have been made in 2004 or 2005
and must not have been published.

The current contest:

Photographs must have been taken within three (3) years before the date
of entry, and must not have been previously published. An image that
combines the elements of more than one photograph or has elements
removed is not eligible. Minor burning, dodging and/or color correction
is acceptable.
PixelPix - 15 Aug 2007 03:11 GMT
> > On Aug 14, 1:53 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Aug 13, 11:50 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> ? To qualify, photographs submitted must have been made in 2004 or 2005
> and must not have been published.

"Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site
and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?

But if that is the case I guess I can wonder around calling myself a
well "published" photographer... I must put that on my resume.
LOL ;-)

Either way, it backs up my earlier statement that if you intend to
enter a NG comp, be warned!   eg:  Bret's caterpillar is now
considered "published" in the eyes of NG is is not eligible.
Eric Miller - 15 Aug 2007 13:48 GMT
> "Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site
> and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?

It fits almost any definition of the word "published."

Eric Miller
www.dyesscreek.com
William Graham - 15 Aug 2007 20:10 GMT
>> "Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site
>> and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?
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> Eric Miller
> www.dyesscreek.com

Considering the affordability and quality of modern printers, it is
relatively cheap to actually publish your own book.
PixelPix - 15 Aug 2007 21:49 GMT
On Aug 15, 10:48 pm, Eric Miller <millereric_nosp...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> > "Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site
> > and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?
>
> It fits almost any definition of the word "published."
>
> Eric Millerwww.dyesscreek.com

yeah I guess it does, but I still think that it is taking it too
far.   In this day and age one should expect that we can display
samples of our work... in NG's view, for an image to remain
"unpublished" we would need to keep it in a dark shoe box never to be
seen.

I know it's their marbles and we have to play the game by their
interpretation of their rules, but personally I would not consider an
image published until it had been supplied for commercial or editorial
use, be it by print or electronic media.
William Graham - 15 Aug 2007 22:02 GMT
> On Aug 15, 10:48 pm, Eric Miller <millereric_nosp...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
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> image published until it had been supplied for commercial or editorial
> use, be it by print or electronic media.

Today, One can publish their own book in their own workshop for an initial
outlay of probably less than 10 or 20 thousand dollars....One can also
establish a "publishing company" under their wife's or a friends name as
owner, and publish ones own book with that companies name and logo on
it.....I don't know how to get a library of congress ISBN number, but I
can't imagine that it would be very difficult or expensive, either.......
Walter Banks - 15 Aug 2007 22:32 GMT
> Today, One can publish their own book in their own workshop for an initial
> outlay of probably less than 10 or 20 thousand dollars....One can also
> establish a "publishing company" under their wife's or a friends name as
> owner, and publish ones own book with that companies name and logo on
> it.....I don't know how to get a library of congress ISBN number, but I
> can't imagine that it would be very difficult or expensive, either.......

The Library of Congress number comes back as part of registering a
copyright on a work. LC gets a copy. The number can be preassigned
before publication

International Standard Numbers are unique codes used by publishers,
libraries and suppliers to identify published works. ISBNs (International
Standard Book Numbers) are assigned to books, pamphlets,
CD's and DVD's.

Both are low cost, together perhaps $100

Publishing is easy, selling is the hard part :)

w..
PixelPix - 16 Aug 2007 01:52 GMT
> > On Aug 15, 10:48 pm, Eric Miller <millereric_nosp...@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
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> it.....I don't know how to get a library of congress ISBN number, but I
> can't imagine that it would be very difficult or expensive, either.......

one can do lots of things sure.... but if none of those have been
done, considering an image "published" because it's on the
photographer's own web site is still a bit harsh IMHO.
Pudentame - 15 Aug 2007 22:18 GMT
>>> The next day they announced the winner and it wasn't me.  :-(
>>> I checked back through the comps terms and there was nothing to say
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> "Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site
> and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?

Their contest - their rules.
John McWilliams - 14 Aug 2007 06:22 GMT
>> Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere:
>>
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> WOW, you outdid yourself Bret!
> Helen

One word: Gross.

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helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 14 Aug 2007 11:52 GMT
> helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere:
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> --
> john mcwilliams

Why gross?
This is great stuff to an invertebrates lover.
Or perhaps you're talking about my comment?
I know I get too enthusiastic but it comes by honestly.  When an image
moves me, I try to express my feelings because I know this is what I
would want.  I give praise for outstanding work.  A simple " great
job" isn't good enough IMHO.
Helen
John McWilliams - 14 Aug 2007 15:25 GMT
>> helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere:
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>>> Helen
>> One word: Gross.

> Why gross?
> This is great stuff to an invertebrates lover.

As are tight shots of tiny/huge/young/old genitalia to certain types of
perverts.

> Or perhaps you're talking about my comment?
> I know I get too enthusiastic but it comes by honestly.

You could "put a sock in it!"; you've become predictable.

 When an image
> moves me, I try to express my feelings because I know this is what I
> would want.  I give praise for outstanding work.  A simple " great
> job" isn't good enough IMHO.

Enthusiasm is great. Hyperbole tends to wear, though, and the more one
uses it, the less effect it has.

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John McWilliams

It's no longer a man up or man down....It's a <your company name here> ®
Power Play....

helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 14 Aug 2007 15:38 GMT
> helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> It's no longer a man up or man down....It's a <your company name here> ®
> Power Play....

I say the same thing every morning when I thank God for that gorgeous
sunrise.  Predictable, perhaps.  But it's honest and from the heart.
I would much rather be too giving than be a cynic.
Helen
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 14 Aug 2007 15:43 GMT
On Aug 14, 10:38 am, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >> helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> I would much rather be too giving than be a cynic.
> Helen

And no, I don't put Bret up there with God.  I've learned to
appreciate and love every bit of beauty that I happen to see, because
I know I will not be here long.
I know practically everyone on the newsgroup has the same opinion
about me.  But that does not hinder me.  The only way I will stop is
if Bret tell me to.  If it becomes too predictable and too much
gushing for him, than I will indeed stop.
Helen
John McWilliams - 14 Aug 2007 16:02 GMT
> And no, I don't put Bret up there with God.  I've learned to
> appreciate and love every bit of beauty that I happen to see, because
> I know I will not be here long.

Sorry to hear the latter. I wish you well, be you a sock or not.

> I know practically everyone on the newsgroup has the same opinion
> about me.  But that does not hinder me.  The only way I will stop is
> if Bret tell me to.  If it becomes too predictable and too much
> gushing for him, than I will indeed stop.

Of course.

best wishes,

john
William Graham - 14 Aug 2007 20:16 GMT
>> And no, I don't put Bret up there with God.  I've learned to
>> appreciate and love every bit of beauty that I happen to see, because
>> I know I will not be here long.

None of us will be here very long.....When I signed our medicinal Marijuana
petition, the guy said, "It's only for people who have a terminal
disease." - I answered, (as I signed it) "Life is a terminal disease."
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 15 Aug 2007 12:24 GMT
> > helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> petition, the guy said, "It's only for people who have a terminal
> disease." - I answered, (as I signed it) "Life is a terminal disease."

WILD BILL! You continue to surprise the heck out of me!  Marijuana?!
LOL!
You DEVIL you!  LOL.
Not my style.  Don't smoke, drink or do drugs.  I get high on the
simpler things.
Helen
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 15 Aug 2007 12:46 GMT
On Aug 15, 7:24 am, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > > helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> simpler things.
> Helen

BTW Bill:  Your statement is very true:  "Life is a terminal
disease."
Helen
Draco - 14 Aug 2007 17:47 GMT
On Aug 14, 10:43 am, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 14, 10:38 am, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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>
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I agree with uw wayne, keep the positive comments coming. To much
backstabing and negative comments have gone on here. Being a cynic is
to easy. Being supportive is hard but worth the time. Glad that you
are willing to be supportive.

Draco

Getting even isn't good enough.

Doing better does.
uw wayne - 14 Aug 2007 16:22 GMT
On Aug 14, 7:38 am, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >> helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
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Helen, keep the praise coming as often as you like. It's always nice
to read positive comments on this site.
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 14 Aug 2007 13:00 GMT
> Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere:
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83868715/original

NICE!  How the hell do you find such nice caterpillars?  Only thing I found
the last two days is inchworms.

Rita
Annika1980 - 14 Aug 2007 18:05 GMT
On Aug 14, 8:00 am, Rita ? Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
> > Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere:
>
> >http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83868715/original
>
> NICE!  How the hell do you find such nice caterpillars?  Only thing I found
> the last two days is inchworms.

They come every year to the same Southern Catalpa tree and they strip
it clean.
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 14 Aug 2007 21:42 GMT
>> NICE!  How the hell do you find such nice caterpillars?  Only thing
>> I found the last two days is inchworms.
>
> They come every year to the same Southern Catalpa tree and they strip
> it clean.

I guess in a way I'm lucky since they haven't destroyed my apple and pear
trees.  Only ones we get are those ugly tent caterpillars.

Rita
Draco - 14 Aug 2007 17:53 GMT
> Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere:
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83868715/original

Great shot, Bret. It is almost like you took the critter into a studio
and took his picture. The way the head is turned it is almost like it
is asking,"Why are you taking my picture?" or "Are you food?".
 You have such a good eye for nature and being able to be there to
capture it. A lot of your images could be a calender or a coffee table
book. They can also win contests of major proportions.
 What ever you do with them, keep posting. I love looking at them and
quietly swearing under my breath,"*#%#$ I can do that!".

Draco

Getting even isn't good enough.

Doing better does.
 
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