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GETTING SMALL WITH GARY FONG !
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Annika1980 - 14 Aug 2007 04:32 GMT Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere:
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83868715/original
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 14 Aug 2007 04:50 GMT > Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere: > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83868715/original 2 words come to mind: AWE-INSPIRING, MAGNIFICENT! WOW, you outdid yourself Bret! Helen
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 14 Aug 2007 04:53 GMT On Aug 13, 11:50 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > WOW, you outdid yourself Bret! > Helen It's totally up to you whether you want to participate or not, but someone mentioned a contest by National Geographic. Honestly, you would blow the competition away! Helen
PixelPix - 14 Aug 2007 10:13 GMT On Aug 14, 1:53 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 13, 11:50 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > would blow the competition away! > Helen ....and then they would give the prize to someone else. :-(
I entered one once and the prize was a week long shoot in Sth America with a NG photographer. Before they announced the winner they contacted me from Singapore and said "We can't tell you that you have won (wink wink), but we need a copy a full size copy of your image for reproduction, a release to use the image, a copy of your passport and confirmation that you would be available to travel on the required dates."
They then asked for my email address and when I said the domain (pixelpix.com.au) they said.... "Oh, you have a web site.... has this image been posted online?" I said yes, but I had not sold it in anyway. The response to that was "Ohhhh....." and that was it.
The next day they announced the winner and it wasn't me. :-(
I checked back through the comps terms and there was nothing to say that a pro could not enter, nor did it say anything about the image needing to be "secret squirrel" prior to the comp.
So if you enter a NG comp, be warned!
Pudentame - 14 Aug 2007 15:03 GMT > On Aug 14, 1:53 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: >> On Aug 13, 11:50 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > So if you enter a NG comp, be warned! Should have read the contest rules. It's in there.
The one with the shoot in Guatemala:
• To qualify, photographs submitted must have been made in 2004 or 2005 and must not have been published.
The current contest:
Photographs must have been taken within three (3) years before the date of entry, and must not have been previously published. An image that combines the elements of more than one photograph or has elements removed is not eligible. Minor burning, dodging and/or color correction is acceptable.
PixelPix - 15 Aug 2007 03:11 GMT > > On Aug 14, 1:53 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> On Aug 13, 11:50 pm, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > ? To qualify, photographs submitted must have been made in 2004 or 2005 > and must not have been published. "Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?
But if that is the case I guess I can wonder around calling myself a well "published" photographer... I must put that on my resume. LOL ;-)
Either way, it backs up my earlier statement that if you intend to enter a NG comp, be warned! eg: Bret's caterpillar is now considered "published" in the eyes of NG is is not eligible.
Eric Miller - 15 Aug 2007 13:48 GMT > "Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site > and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think? It fits almost any definition of the word "published."
Eric Miller www.dyesscreek.com
William Graham - 15 Aug 2007 20:10 GMT >> "Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site >> and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Eric Miller > www.dyesscreek.com Considering the affordability and quality of modern printers, it is relatively cheap to actually publish your own book.
PixelPix - 15 Aug 2007 21:49 GMT On Aug 15, 10:48 pm, Eric Miller <millereric_nosp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > "Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site > > and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think? > > It fits almost any definition of the word "published." > > Eric Millerwww.dyesscreek.com yeah I guess it does, but I still think that it is taking it too far. In this day and age one should expect that we can display samples of our work... in NG's view, for an image to remain "unpublished" we would need to keep it in a dark shoe box never to be seen.
I know it's their marbles and we have to play the game by their interpretation of their rules, but personally I would not consider an image published until it had been supplied for commercial or editorial use, be it by print or electronic media.
William Graham - 15 Aug 2007 22:02 GMT > On Aug 15, 10:48 pm, Eric Miller <millereric_nosp...@bellsouth.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > image published until it had been supplied for commercial or editorial > use, be it by print or electronic media. Today, One can publish their own book in their own workshop for an initial outlay of probably less than 10 or 20 thousand dollars....One can also establish a "publishing company" under their wife's or a friends name as owner, and publish ones own book with that companies name and logo on it.....I don't know how to get a library of congress ISBN number, but I can't imagine that it would be very difficult or expensive, either.......
Walter Banks - 15 Aug 2007 22:32 GMT > Today, One can publish their own book in their own workshop for an initial > outlay of probably less than 10 or 20 thousand dollars....One can also > establish a "publishing company" under their wife's or a friends name as > owner, and publish ones own book with that companies name and logo on > it.....I don't know how to get a library of congress ISBN number, but I > can't imagine that it would be very difficult or expensive, either....... The Library of Congress number comes back as part of registering a copyright on a work. LC gets a copy. The number can be preassigned before publication
International Standard Numbers are unique codes used by publishers, libraries and suppliers to identify published works. ISBNs (International Standard Book Numbers) are assigned to books, pamphlets, CD's and DVD's.
Both are low cost, together perhaps $100
Publishing is easy, selling is the hard part :)
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PixelPix - 16 Aug 2007 01:52 GMT > > On Aug 15, 10:48 pm, Eric Miller <millereric_nosp...@bellsouth.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > it.....I don't know how to get a library of congress ISBN number, but I > can't imagine that it would be very difficult or expensive, either....... one can do lots of things sure.... but if none of those have been done, considering an image "published" because it's on the photographer's own web site is still a bit harsh IMHO.
Pudentame - 15 Aug 2007 22:18 GMT >>> The next day they announced the winner and it wasn't me. :-( >>> I checked back through the comps terms and there was nothing to say [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > "Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site > and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think? Their contest - their rules.
John McWilliams - 14 Aug 2007 06:22 GMT >> Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > WOW, you outdid yourself Bret! > Helen One word: Gross.
 Signature john mcwilliams
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 14 Aug 2007 11:52 GMT > helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > john mcwilliams Why gross? This is great stuff to an invertebrates lover. Or perhaps you're talking about my comment? I know I get too enthusiastic but it comes by honestly. When an image moves me, I try to express my feelings because I know this is what I would want. I give praise for outstanding work. A simple " great job" isn't good enough IMHO. Helen
John McWilliams - 14 Aug 2007 15:25 GMT >> helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>> Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>> Helen >> One word: Gross.
> Why gross? > This is great stuff to an invertebrates lover. As are tight shots of tiny/huge/young/old genitalia to certain types of perverts.
> Or perhaps you're talking about my comment? > I know I get too enthusiastic but it comes by honestly. You could "put a sock in it!"; you've become predictable.
When an image
> moves me, I try to express my feelings because I know this is what I > would want. I give praise for outstanding work. A simple " great > job" isn't good enough IMHO. Enthusiasm is great. Hyperbole tends to wear, though, and the more one uses it, the less effect it has.
 Signature John McWilliams
It's no longer a man up or man down....It's a <your company name here> ® Power Play....
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 14 Aug 2007 15:38 GMT > helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > It's no longer a man up or man down....It's a <your company name here> ® > Power Play.... I say the same thing every morning when I thank God for that gorgeous sunrise. Predictable, perhaps. But it's honest and from the heart. I would much rather be too giving than be a cynic. Helen
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 14 Aug 2007 15:43 GMT On Aug 14, 10:38 am, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: > > >> helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > I would much rather be too giving than be a cynic. > Helen And no, I don't put Bret up there with God. I've learned to appreciate and love every bit of beauty that I happen to see, because I know I will not be here long. I know practically everyone on the newsgroup has the same opinion about me. But that does not hinder me. The only way I will stop is if Bret tell me to. If it becomes too predictable and too much gushing for him, than I will indeed stop. Helen
John McWilliams - 14 Aug 2007 16:02 GMT > And no, I don't put Bret up there with God. I've learned to > appreciate and love every bit of beauty that I happen to see, because > I know I will not be here long. Sorry to hear the latter. I wish you well, be you a sock or not.
> I know practically everyone on the newsgroup has the same opinion > about me. But that does not hinder me. The only way I will stop is > if Bret tell me to. If it becomes too predictable and too much > gushing for him, than I will indeed stop. Of course.
best wishes,
john
William Graham - 14 Aug 2007 20:16 GMT >> And no, I don't put Bret up there with God. I've learned to >> appreciate and love every bit of beauty that I happen to see, because >> I know I will not be here long. None of us will be here very long.....When I signed our medicinal Marijuana petition, the guy said, "It's only for people who have a terminal disease." - I answered, (as I signed it) "Life is a terminal disease."
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 15 Aug 2007 12:24 GMT > > helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > petition, the guy said, "It's only for people who have a terminal > disease." - I answered, (as I signed it) "Life is a terminal disease." WILD BILL! You continue to surprise the heck out of me! Marijuana?! LOL! You DEVIL you! LOL. Not my style. Don't smoke, drink or do drugs. I get high on the simpler things. Helen
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 15 Aug 2007 12:46 GMT On Aug 15, 7:24 am, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > simpler things. > Helen BTW Bill: Your statement is very true: "Life is a terminal disease." Helen
Draco - 14 Aug 2007 17:47 GMT On Aug 14, 10:43 am, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 14, 10:38 am, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I agree with uw wayne, keep the positive comments coming. To much backstabing and negative comments have gone on here. Being a cynic is to easy. Being supportive is hard but worth the time. Glad that you are willing to be supportive.
Draco
Getting even isn't good enough.
Doing better does.
uw wayne - 14 Aug 2007 16:22 GMT On Aug 14, 7:38 am, helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: > > >> helensilverb...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Helen, keep the praise coming as often as you like. It's always nice to read positive comments on this site.
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 14 Aug 2007 13:00 GMT > Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere: > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83868715/original NICE! How the hell do you find such nice caterpillars? Only thing I found the last two days is inchworms.
Rita
Annika1980 - 14 Aug 2007 18:05 GMT On Aug 14, 8:00 am, Rita ? Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:
> > Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere: > > >http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83868715/original > > NICE! How the hell do you find such nice caterpillars? Only thing I found > the last two days is inchworms. They come every year to the same Southern Catalpa tree and they strip it clean.
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 14 Aug 2007 21:42 GMT >> NICE! How the hell do you find such nice caterpillars? Only thing >> I found the last two days is inchworms. > > They come every year to the same Southern Catalpa tree and they strip > it clean. I guess in a way I'm lucky since they haven't destroyed my apple and pear trees. Only ones we get are those ugly tent caterpillars.
Rita
Draco - 14 Aug 2007 17:53 GMT > Another great portrait shot with the Gary Fong Lightsphere: > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83868715/original Great shot, Bret. It is almost like you took the critter into a studio and took his picture. The way the head is turned it is almost like it is asking,"Why are you taking my picture?" or "Are you food?". You have such a good eye for nature and being able to be there to capture it. A lot of your images could be a calender or a coffee table book. They can also win contests of major proportions. What ever you do with them, keep posting. I love looking at them and quietly swearing under my breath,"*#%#$ I can do that!".
Draco
Getting even isn't good enough.
Doing better does.
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