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The 3rd of the month and everything is turning up X 3!

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D-Mac. - 02 Aug 2007 11:25 GMT
Strolling around looking for my mate, digging bait about 3 O'clock
this afternoon, I found this threesome.
http://www.ryadia.com/POD/August/3-08-07.htm

BTW. If anyone thinks creating a PFTD site was a useless venture (the
3 sheep stalking my every post did)... 2,961 people have book-marked
the site since July 27th. That's near enough to 1000 a month! And...
How many came from Groups.Google? 1/3rd of them!

Another piece of curious trivia;
12,741 people looked at my initial album http://www.ryadia.com/album1/index.html
and 9,688 times the Directory holding the Picture For The Day files
was accessed.

The site is not three months old. Yet an average of three (3) thousand
people a month looked at my PFTD photos.
http://www.ryadia.com/POD/index.htm

Curiosity continues in three's!

The 3 sheep causing the most disruption to this group and
coincidentally the most vocal in criticizing my work, make up less
than 0.03% of my visitors!

Wow... It certainly looks like Good things things come in three's!

Now the bad stuff. http://www.annika1980.com only had 1,557 visitors
for the month and a mere 1/3rd of them bothered to bookmark the site.
I guess that says 1/3rd of protagonists stalking me are of bugger all
interest to anyone but themselves and near enough (will be there soon)
10,000 people are interested in seeing my photographs. I think that's
exceptional. Thanks to those who bothered. Dragon's breath to the
bastards causing the trouble here.

Doug
Doug Jewell - 02 Aug 2007 13:08 GMT
> Strolling around looking for my mate, digging bait about 3 O'clock
> this afternoon, I found this threesome.
> http://www.ryadia.com/POD/August/3-08-07.htm
Personally I'd have liked the shot cropped a little more on the left and
bottom, otherwise, not bad.  Your lucky to have photogenic birds that are
relatively idle. Around here about the only idle bird to be seen is the ibis
or the mynah - and I'm sure you know how ugly they are. Otherwise there's
things like green parrots and rosellas, but in the time it takes to lift the
camera to the face they have moved on.
I did manage to get this little fella last october - more luck of being in
the right place at the right time than anything else.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/984428275/

> BTW. If anyone thinks creating a PFTD site was a useless venture (the
> 3 sheep stalking my every post did)... 2,961 people have book-marked
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>
> Doug
Annika1980 - 02 Aug 2007 13:24 GMT
> Wow... It certainly looks like Good things things come in three's!
>
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>
> Doug

I was going to comment on your pic, but it is obvious that you only
posted it as a lead-in for another series of attacks and threats
against me.  Why can't you just post a pic and leave it at that rather
than posting it and starting into your usual delusional BS about
people stalking an bullying you?  See, D-Mac, nobody cares about any
of that. We all know you're full of sh.t and mentally your oars ain't
all in the water, if you know what I mean.

And one more thing, today is August 2nd, not August 3rd.
Wanna buy a calendar?
helensilverburg@hotmail.com - 02 Aug 2007 13:53 GMT
> > Wow... It certainly looks like Good things things come in three's!
>
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> And one more thing, today is August 2nd, not August 3rd.
> Wanna buy a calendar?

I couldn't have said it better.  I wanted to comment as well, but when
he started on with that constant repititious crap, I lost interest.
Helen
D.Mac - 03 Aug 2007 04:30 GMT
> > Wow... It certainly looks like Good things things come in three's!
>
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> And one more thing, today is August 2nd, not August 3rd.
> Wanna buy a calendar?

If you could keep your mouth shut and your fingers idle for just one
second when my name is mentioned, you might find I have no interest in
you anymore. Keep being a miserable swine and posting pictures you
stole from me and you are going to get back in spades anything you
think you can accomplish by (trying) to be smart.  In the end, it's
you who will suffer.
Annika1980 - 03 Aug 2007 14:30 GMT
> If you could keep your mouth shut and your fingers idle for just one
> second when my name is mentioned, you might find I have no interest in
> you anymore.

Yeah, that's why in the original post in this thread you couldn't
resist jabbing me and mentioning your Annika1980.com website, which is
still active.  If you truly have no interest in me anymore take that
site down and we can end this whole thing.  That should leave you
plenty of time to focus on many of your other perceived enemies ....
Mark Thomas, Mark Morgan, Alan Browne, Tony Polson, Colin,
PixelPix, .... its a long list.

Otherwise, quit your bitching and your lying and continue to get what
you get.  It matters not to me .... I'll still be out there taking
pics every day.
D-Mac. - 04 Aug 2007 02:40 GMT
> > If you could keep your mouth shut and your fingers idle for just one
> > second when my name is mentioned, you might find I have no interest in
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> you get.  It matters not to me .... I'll still be out there taking
> pics every day.
---------------------------

As a show of my sincerity in ending the stupidity.
Http://www.annika1980.com.

Now let's see some sincerity from you, Bret. Get rid of the sites you
created using my pictures and are still active.

Doug
Troy Piggins - 04 Aug 2007 04:23 GMT
* D-Mac. is quoted & my replies are inline below :

>>> If you could keep your mouth shut and your fingers idle for just one
>>> second when my name is mentioned, you might find I have no interest in
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> As a show of my sincerity in ending the stupidity.
> Http://www.annika1980.com.

Doug - I'd just like to say well done.  Hope that doesn't sound
condescending, it's not meant to be.  Let's hope a truce is in
the making.  Congratulations on taking that step.

Peace.

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Troy Piggins
Gallery: http://piggo.com/~troy/coppermine
Please feel free to provide constructive criticism on any photos I post.  I'm
always learning and appreciate feedback.

Annika1980 - 04 Aug 2007 14:18 GMT
> > > If you could keep your mouth shut and your fingers idle for just one
> > > second when my name is mentioned, you might find I have no interest in
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> Now let's see some sincerity from you, Bret. Get rid of the sites you
> created using my pictures and are still active.

A nice gesture to remove only the opening page of your website.

Now will you truly take the rest of the site down such as these pages?

http://www.annika1980.com/mansloth.htm
http://www.annika1980.com/cracking.htm
http://www.annika1980.com/reward.htm

Oh yeah, while you're at it you might want to take down this site you
created as well:
http://www.geocities.com/bret_douglas/

As a show of good faith I will remove the pbase website that my
friend, Figgy, created.
Draco - 02 Aug 2007 14:02 GMT
> Strolling around looking for my mate, digging bait about 3 O'clock
> this afternoon, I found this threesome.http://www.ryadia.com/POD/August/3-08-07.htm
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>
> Doug
Draco - 02 Aug 2007 14:12 GMT
> Strolling around looking for my mate, digging bait about 3 O'clock
> this afternoon, I found this threesome.http://www.ryadia.com/POD/August/3-08-07.htm
(snipped a lot)

 Figuring on the time difference, you took your shot around midnight
east coast time USA. Not bad for a "night" shot. ;-)
   Glad you are getting so many hits on your web site. Nice Job. To
bad you had to go and muck it up.

Draco

Getting even isn't good enough.

Doing better does.
mark.thomas.7@gmail.com - 03 Aug 2007 09:10 GMT
> Strolling around looking for my mate, digging bait about 3 O'clock
> this afternoon, I found this threesome.http://www.ryadia.com/POD/August/3-08-07.htm

Genuinely nice shot.  Not outstanding, but nice.

A few tips for next time:
- Ken Rockwellian saturation isn't always a good move, and in this
case the sky has ended up just a little o-t-t, and the color of that
guttering is unpleasant and distracting - I know we can't blame him
for the paintjob, but D-Mac does have control of the overall image
look.
- The composition leaves a little to be desired - I can't help
thinking a less conventional camera angle, eg closer and upwards, may
have worked better.  But I'm sure there was a fence (or perhaps an
alligator filled moat) there - there's always an excuse!
- The wooden gutter support, deep shadow beneath, and that sliver of
background showing through are all very distracting, and that now-
overused framing line draws attention to it.  As I have pointed out
elsewhere, things that are very close to, or guillotined by, the frame
edge become much more noticable/noticed.  This is an error being
repeated in many of D-Mac's latest, er.. 'works'.
- There was probably a better "critical moment"..  D-Mac says he
waited 25 minutes for the third bird - admirable, but how much better
would this shot be if one of the pelicans was yawning, or stretching
out one wing, or whatever..?  They look pretty settled, so I'm betting
he could have watched and waited - maybe even a montage of different
poses could have worked..

In summary, a nice shot indeed and worthy of posting for a change.
But it could have been a masterpiece with a bit more effort.

I know I'm still learning (won't stop until I die), and I'm always
open to suggestions.
How will Douglas respond, I wonder?  (O:

As for the rest of his post, it deserves the following comment:
Pudentame - 03 Aug 2007 21:01 GMT
>> Strolling around looking for my mate, digging bait about 3 O'clock
>> this afternoon, I found this threesome.http://www.ryadia.com/POD/August/3-08-07.htm
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> A few tips for next time:
> - Ken Rockwellian saturation isn't always a good move,

Oh no! The *Ultimate* insult ... It's pistols at dawn for sure now.  ;-D
D-Mac. - 04 Aug 2007 03:11 GMT
> mark.thoma...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Strolling around looking for my mate, digging bait about 3 O'clock
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>
> Oh no! The *Ultimate* insult ... It's pistols at dawn for sure now.  ;-D

Hi Pud.
Despite what you might think, I have no issue anymore with anyone
making comments about the technical merits or lack of them in my
photos. Many are after all intended to invoke people's opinions. My
only issue with anyone is when they start personal criticism and
Insults without ever having met me or known anything about me.
Mark.Thomas.7 is his own worst enemy in that regard. He seeks peer
acceptance and can't get it because he doesn't deserve it. This makes
him the nasty bastard you come across in the groups.

He has every right to pass the comments on photos anyone posts. He has
absolutely no right to pass comment on anything else about me, my
wife, my daughter or my business activities, which are totally legal,
correctly incorporated and registered with the Australian Taxation
Office and every other Government department with an interest in what
I do. Although he would dearly love to know what I've done to conceal
this from him. His barbs aimed at getting a response are wasted, he'll
never get another one from me.

What I've done is what every working Photographer in Australia is
doing or will do soon, thanks to the activities of idle minded idiots
like him and the sheep who chime in. I can't see any of the sheep's
posts but I see replies to them by people like yourself. Reference to
over saturated colours goes into an are of "What use for the picture"
which he has no knowledge of so any comment he makes is pure
speculation. Compositional comments have no validity either, unless a
wider view of the scene is available for assessment and of course
composition is what separates all photographers. If he wishes all of
us to comply with his version of what a scene should look like, he
probably ought to take it up with John Howard and George Bush so they
can legislate for proper composition of photographs displayed on the
Internet.

For me? I'll reply to polite and or civil people and do my best to
reply in the same way. I've just used "Grease Monkey" to create some
scripts to control how I see newsgroups and he, along with a couple of
other people I'd rather never know, can say what they like about my
posts. If their comments are of any worth, I'll pick up on them when
someone else replies.

Doug
mark.thomas.7@gmail.com - 04 Aug 2007 07:31 GMT
> My only issue with anyone is when they start personal criticism
I'll let others judge who does all the 'personal' criticism.  But I
think the truth is obvious when Douglas, just two sentences later,
says:

> This makes him the nasty bastard you come across in the groups.
Didn't take long, did it?  Case rests.

> He has every right to pass the comments on photos anyone posts.
Correct.

> He has absolutely no right to pass comment on anything else about me,
> my wife, my daughter
And I NEVER have mentioned his wife or daughter, except where his
'daughter' has allegedly posted (using one of Douglas' aliases).  Yet
I can post plenty of examples where he has attacked me, my mother,
spouse, etc.  That is why his never ending (and never successful)
threats of legal action are a joke - he would be laughed out of any
lawyer's office, and would most likely end up on the receiving end.

> or my business activities
Sorry, but IF *ANYONE* PROMOTES THEIR BUSINESS ACTIVITIES HERE, they
have to accept scrutiny.  Douglas has and does.
Pete D - 04 Aug 2007 08:38 GMT
>> My only issue with anyone is when they start personal criticism
> I'll let others judge who does all the 'personal' criticism.  But I
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> Sorry, but IF *ANYONE* PROMOTES THEIR BUSINESS ACTIVITIES HERE, they
> have to accept scrutiny.  Douglas has and does.

Has he actually proven that he has ever actually had a business?
mark.thomas.7@gmail.com - 04 Aug 2007 10:14 GMT
Off topic - replying to Pete D.
> Has he actually proven that he has ever actually had a business?

Yes, it seems so, although it depends on your definition...

He has owned a few business names, including TechnoAussie. He was also
a director of a company called Technology Australia Pty Ltd.  That
company and the business names are all now deregistered.  Douglas has
implied he has new ones, but will not name them.  Checking any of the
hard-to-find calendars or postcards might give a clue, but the only
ones I've ever found (2 postcards!) have just been labelled
"www.technoaussie.com" and "Copyright Technology Australia Pty Ltd
2004".  Ie they appear to be 4 years old, and refer to now-defunct
names and websites.

Here:
http://groups.google.com.au/group/rec.photo.digital.slr-systems/browse_frm/threa
d/38251efcf54a561c

..he claimed to have a chain of 'Digital Print Centres" under the now-
defunct TechnoAussie label (and used some questionable methods to
promote them).  He later claimed to have sold off this business, but
the new owners clearly didn't want the old name, he hasn't been
prepared to name them and nobody can seem to find them.

His canvasphotos.com.au website seems now to be occupied by a WA
company.

His (or his wife's) stand at the Cleveland markets *was* operational,
but he has said that has closed too.  The 'shopfront' picture he keeps
posting was just a small office near Capalaba, and he is no longer
there.

So, I would suggest if you are seeking his services, try his PO Box...

Interesting how he wants everyone else's residential address, but ask
him for a simple business address so we can test out his claims...?
Annika1980 - 04 Aug 2007 14:27 GMT
> Mark.Thomas.7 is his own worst enemy in that regard. He seeks peer
> acceptance and can't get it because he doesn't deserve it. This makes
> him the nasty bastard you come across in the groups.

> His barbs aimed at getting a response are wasted, he'll
> never get another one from me.

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Pudentame - 04 Aug 2007 16:08 GMT
>> mark.thoma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Strolling around looking for my mate, digging bait about 3 O'clock
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> making comments about the technical merits or lack of them in my
> photos.

Yeah, I know.

The Ken Rockwell comparison just offered an irresistible temptation to
stir the pot a little.
 
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