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P&S wide angle and close-up

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iharding160@googlemail.com - 25 Jul 2007 16:22 GMT
Looking for a compact 35mm film camera for my dad.  Not interested in
digital.

He wants to be able to take close-ups of flowers and insects - within
reason - no expectations of true macro but something that can focus at
~50cm and has a dedicated close-up mode is desirable.

Would also like to do reasonably wide angle shots.  28mm would be
good.

Not interested in super zooms over 100mm (what's the point when the
lens is so slow and hard to hold steady?), but some zoom capability is
needed.

The Canon Sureshot Z90W is pretty much what I am looking for but it is
discontinued and no new stock is available.  The suggested
replacement, the Z90U, only opens up to 38mm on the wide end.

Anything else like this on the market?  Price not really an issue.

Thanks,
Ian
Nicholas O. Lindan - 25 Jul 2007 18:40 GMT
> Looking for a compact 35mm film camera for my dad.  Not interested in
> digital.
> He wants to be able to take close-ups of flowers and insects - within
> reason - no expectations of true macro but something that can focus at
> ~50cm and has a dedicated close-up mode is desirable.

For flowers and insects you need a macro lens, and be able to get
to ~6 inches/15cm from the front of the lens (50mm).

No film P&S gets that close.  18" with a 28mm focal length, maybe.
No good for insects.  OK for a complete rose bush.  Even if you got
that close there is no way to frame the shot.

Choices are

o Digital P&S with a good macro capability - maybe
  with vibration reduction.  I don't know of one that
  goes to 28mm equiv. at the wide end, most seem to stop
  at 38mm equiv. or so.  Maybe a complementary WA film P&S.

o Film SLR with a 28-105 zoom.  The macro capability on these
  lenses may not meet your needs and you may want a separate
  macro lens.

o Digital SLR, as above.

Flash is a good idea for macro because it steadies the shot and
darkens the background.  A bit of work with a coat hanger and some
white cardboard makes a diffuse reflector that will make for very
good macro lighting using an on-camera flash.

Digital is the only way to go for insects.  There are some things
digital does so much better it's not worth thinking of using film:
figure you catch the bug just right in maybe one in twenty or
hundred shots - with digital you know you have a keeper and
can move on.  Film can be _very_ disappointing unless you have
moribund (or fresh frozen) insects.  All the great insect
shots of the past were done with chilled insects.

> Price not really an issue.

Digital might be grudgingly acceptable - you can take the
camera in to the drugstore for prints, same as for film.

Figure $170 for an 'insect cam'.  I have, and like, a Canon
A520 (or somesuch). It can take close-up lenses for getting
_really_ close; also for getting close with a longer zoom which
you be farther from the insect with less chance of scaring it
away.

Figure another $180 for a wide-angle film P&S of your choice.

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Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
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n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com

 
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