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Julian - 25 Jul 2007 01:45 GMT Here's the real calander cover!
Thanks trolls and others who just had to get in a bit of head kicking. http://www.ryadia.com/POD/July/24-07-07.htm
There is a golden rule the groupies following me around never quite understood. "If you can't say something decent about someone, good grace decrees you should say nothing"!.
Willarojo - 25 Jul 2007 02:10 GMT > "If you can't say something decent about someone, good grace > decrees you should say nothing"!. Kewl, do I get to be the first to say it?
Hey Jules, Grace here, and all I have to say is "Nothing!"
Willa
 Signature http://www.pbase.com/willarojo
“I came into this world, not chiefly to make this a good place to live in, but to live in it, be it good or bad.” Thoreau, Civil Disobedience
“We are in great haste to construct a magnetic telegraph line from Maine to Texas; but Maine and Texas, it may be, have nothing important to communicate.” Thoreau, Walden ****** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder
William Graham - 25 Jul 2007 07:15 GMT >> "If you can't say something decent about someone, good grace >> decrees you should say nothing"!. This probably explains why I haven't said anything about anybody for the past 30 years or so........
Willarojo - 25 Jul 2007 02:23 GMT > Here's the real calander cover! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > "If you can't say something decent about someone, good grace > decrees you should say nothing"!. I like how you've framed the entire bay--nay, the entire ocean! Double-nay, the entire sky!!--with those 2 little shrubs. Quite heroic of them, really. ('Atlas Shrubbed', as it were.)
I'm also impressed that not one single mast has been cut off at the top! Of course, you've got so much boring sky, I can almost see Sputnik up there!
It was an excellent choice, from an editor's view, to leave fully half of your photo boring and essentially blank so that the text is an improvement. A veritable typographer's wetdream!
I also like the contrast of boat to car, ocean/sky to parking lot. And is that earthy brown building a public restroom? Brilliant! One little oasis of (night-)soil in an ocean of sky and bay!
And to think, had you stepped 10 feet closer to the cliff there, you might not have had any grass in the frame, and we could have imagined you had been soaring like a bird when you took this shot.
Noon sure is a dramatic time to shoot.
Willa
 Signature http://www.pbase.com/willarojo
“I came into this world, not chiefly to make this a good place to live in, but to live in it, be it good or bad.” Thoreau, Civil Disobedience
“We are in great haste to construct a magnetic telegraph line from Maine to Texas; but Maine and Texas, it may be, have nothing important to communicate.” Thoreau, Walden ****** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder
Julian - 25 Jul 2007 02:42 GMT > > Here's the real calander cover! > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Willa > --http://www.pbase.com/willarojo Thank you for that commentory Willa. It certainly shows my assesment of your ability as photographer was spot on correct. You know after the Mac's 10 year history of publishing calendars and postcards (many of the calendars total sell outs year after year), I'd recon your contribution could change the face of calendars in Australia, nay, the world. Good one, mate. Now for your next trick are you going to post your calendar covers? What about another "Photo of the day"? Now that was a good idea, wasn't it? How long did it last? A week, wasn't it? Naw... Just weak, eh?
Willarojo - 25 Jul 2007 12:08 GMT > On Jul 25, 11:23 am, Willarojo <macropho...@SPAMyahooLESS.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > wasn't it? How long did it last? A week, wasn't it? Naw... Just > weak, eh? FYI, I'm still shooting nearly every day, and adding to my galleries several times a week, but Yes, I don't post "One-A-Day" links here any more. I got some good feedback, but it takes away from shooting time.
Just as replying to your stupidities takes away shooting time, but slapping a bully around is always a worthy occupation.
Never said I was a great photog, just that Doug sucks, and Julian sucks worse.
P.S. "Assessment" not "assesment", "reckon" not "recon".
Also, been meaning to ask, are your from Samoa or American Samoa?
Willa
 Signature http://www.pbase.com/willarojo
“I came into this world, not chiefly to make this a good place to live in, but to live in it, be it good or bad.” Thoreau, Civil Disobedience
“We are in great haste to construct a magnetic telegraph line from Maine to Texas; but Maine and Texas, it may be, have nothing important to communicate.” Thoreau, Walden ****** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder
Annika1980 - 25 Jul 2007 05:11 GMT > Here's the real calander cover! http://www.pbase.com/figgy/image/82802499/original
EXCELLENT WORK !!!
Julian - 25 Jul 2007 06:07 GMT > > Here's the real calander cover! > > http://www.pbase.com/figgy/image/82802499/original > > EXCELLENT WORK !!! You know, this is why you can't ever hope to be a Professional Photographer. Do you not see the relationship between a wedding cake and wedding gifts? Here lies the clear evidence of your stupidity. All you see is a cabinet that IN YOUR OPINION interferes with the picture. Wedding Photographers are not unlike Photojournalists. They work with what they can. When you try to be smart and post some of my photos before I altered them, you are just showing people how bloody idiotic you really are.
Nearly all the pictures I took in the house being restored under a National Trust order, that you stole some of the shots from, had the subjects lifted and put over other backgrounds. You never bothered to write for a password to the wedding gallery, just thought how great it would be to slap D-Mac around a bit. Now you are about to pay for your crimes. Enjoy yourself while you can.
Troy Piggins - 25 Jul 2007 06:52 GMT * Julian is quoted & my replies are inline below :
>> > Here's the real calander cover! >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Nearly all the pictures I took in the house being restored under a ^^^
Doug?
> National Trust order, that you stole some of the shots from, had the > subjects lifted and put over other backgrounds. You never bothered to > write for a password to the wedding gallery, just thought how great it > would be to slap D-Mac around a bit. Now you are about to pay for your > crimes. Enjoy yourself while you can.
 Signature Troy Piggins Canon EOS 30D + 70-200 f2.8L IS | 24-70 f2.8L | 10-22 f3.5-4.5 | 100 f2.8 Macro
mark.thomas.7@gmail.com - 25 Jul 2007 09:45 GMT > Nearly all the pictures ***I TOOK*** in the house being restored As Troy piggins pointed out, Douglas, when you are pretending to be Julian, you should possibly stop referring to yourself as "I", don't you think?
(O:
You're pretty entertaining, though!
> Now you are about to pay for your > crimes. Enjoy yourself while you can. Just one more tip, if I may. Gloating over your victories is generally best done *after* you have achieved one. We're still waiting for that glorious day.
Annika1980 - 25 Jul 2007 13:50 GMT > When you try to be smart and post some of MY photos before I > altered them, you are just showing people how bloody idiotic you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > National Trust order, that you stole some of the shots from, had the > subjects lifted and put over other backgrounds. Your photos? I thought they were Doug's photos? So you are now telling us straight out that you are Doug and everything you posted about Julian is a big fat lie? I can't wait to see you try to squirm out of this one.
Wiggle little worm .... wiggle.
Annika1980 - 25 Jul 2007 17:06 GMT > When you try to be smart and post some of my photos before I > altered them, you are just showing people how bloody idiotic you > really are. Hey dumbass. You posted the photos originally before you altered them.
Oh yeah, "I meant to do that!"
Sucks to be you, Fig.
mark.thomas.7@gmail.com - 25 Jul 2007 10:24 GMT > Here's the real calander cover! That's CALENDAR.
> Thanks trolls and others who just had to get in a bit of head kicking. > http://www.ryadia.com/POD/July/24-07-07.htm That's ok. Happy to oblige.
> There is a golden rule the groupies following me around never quite > understood. > "If you can't say something decent about someone, good grace decrees > you should say nothing"!. Ah yes, but this is a place of learning. So even though Douglas may be incapable of that (learning), *others* may benefit from the following critical appraisal.
PLUSES: It's a 'pleasant' scene Horizon is straight
MINUSES: - should probably have been horizontal, or at least composed differently - centred horizon looks boring, and appears to be there simply to give the text enough sky - bad cropping (leftmost boat hits the frame edge - beginner's error) - Text effects are trite, straight out of WordArt 101 - image is unsharp (the original is probably fine but the downsizing was done poorly - also note the stairstepping on front left mooring) - polariser, polariser, polariser (in other words this is harsh midday light - what was he thinking?) - two bushes look silly - post in middle looks sillier (it's just a calendar cover, so you might be forgiven for cloning)
Finally, the choice of image is.. er.. puzzling. So they have a marina, woohoo.. Why not include something other than an unused, unoccupied piece of grass in the foreground? Where's the interest, the excitement, or even the relaxing mood for someone to sit and enjoy the view? Nope, just an empty piece of grass that looks as if it is probably on someone's private land.. This image says to me "Don't bother coming here unless you like to see boats in a marina from a distance (probably behind locked gates).
I can imagine this image cropped differently, taken at dawn or dusk, perhaps with a silhouetted figure holding a champagne glass lit by the golden spears of light from sundown, as the day softly trickles away into a gorgeous night, full of promise...
Oh sorry, I shouldn't be getting all poetic - this image screams...
SNAPSHOT!!! (Now let's drive on to somewhere *nice*.)
Draco - 25 Jul 2007 15:07 GMT > Here's the real calander cover! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "If you can't say something decent about someone, good grace decrees > you should say nothing"!. This image is a whole lot better than the one you posted the other day. I have to agree with another that the calender cover shot should be in the same direction as the calender opens and is used. So from looking at this shot I would say the calender is a vertical. Which would make it stand out from all the rest.
Those of us who make comments about the work of imagery are usually doing so to help. Not to kick around anyones head. So, if you could refrain from snide comments it would be a big help in reducing the nonsense.
But then again, without nonsense how would we know when to laugh?
Draco
Getting even isn't good enough.
Doing better does.
Walter Banks - 25 Jul 2007 19:24 GMT > Here's the real calander cover! > > Thanks trolls and others who just had to get in a bit of head kicking. > http://www.ryadia.com/POD/July/24-07-07.htm Since you and Doug and your various aliases are such a stickler for copyrights I assume that Akuna Seaplanes has been comfortable enough with this photo of its yellow Cessna 206 to give you copyright release. Nice airplane too bad the floats aren't registered
.. - 26 Jul 2007 06:04 GMT > > Here's the real calander cover! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > enough with this photo of its yellow Cessna 206 to give you > copyright release. Nice airplane too bad the floats aren't registered Images taken in National Parks and Defined Recreational areas by me or Doug do not require owner's of equipment operating in those areas to give us permission to reproduce any photographs we take. This includes web images, wedding photographs and posters we sell.
It's a complex issue, I grant you but the over riding fact is that we have a COMMERCIAL PHOTOGRAPHY permit from the management of the area that plane is taking off from. Wether or not Akuna have a permit to land in a defined recreational area or wether their floats are registered is their business. Why not take it up with them if you are so concerned?
Tangalooma wild dolphin resort have absolute control over the area down to low water and bounded by clearly defined markers either side and at the rear of the resort. That plane picked up a medical emergency patient from the resort on a day which would tax any bush pilot's skills at landing and taking off a seaplane.
The Queensland Environmental Protection Agency which incorporates the Queensland Parks and Wildlife service, have control over the waters from low tide mark to an area encompassing the sea from which the plane took off - as a defined "Recreational Area" under the National Parks act.
FYI we have permits from the appropriate authorities for the entire Australian continent and several off shore Islands as well as some of Tasmania. Link to our permit for Queensland: http://www.annika1980.com/evidence/permit.htm
Probably the reason Doug and his businesses are such "soft targets" for the idiots who attack him is because unlike them, he registered his companies and employees with every Australian department and authority likely to need a permit issued for commercial Photography and Photographic tour activities. This included listing his real name and contact details on any web site he may use to sell his photographs.
Now apart from your attempt to discredit me or Doug as doing something illegal, do you have any reason for bringing that crap up here?
JA
Walter Banks - 26 Jul 2007 13:26 GMT > > > Here's the real calander cover! > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > have a COMMERCIAL PHOTOGRAPHY permit from the management of the area that > plane is taking off from. The photo was in an promotional area of your website that was associated with the calendar link, I assumed that you had followed all the rules when using an image of Akuna's airplane as part of your promotion I am surprised that they would want that kind of promotion. There was nothing associated with the image to indicate an emergency flight.
> Wether or not Akuna have a permit to land in a > defined recreational area or wether their floats are registered is their > business. Why not take it up with them if you are so concerned? They have floats on a Cessna 206 that can take off with the tip wheels in the down position on water, that significantly reduces drag but normally that is a problem in water. The plane is registered with tricycle gear so the retrofit floats manufacturer is not identified, simple comment. I was curious who manufactured the floats.
> FYI we have permits from the appropriate authorities for the entire > Australian continent and several off shore Islands as well as some of > Tasmania. Link to our permit for Queensland: > http://www.annika1980.com/evidence/permit.htm I have never challenged any of that, what is your point?
> Now apart from your attempt to discredit me or Doug as doing > something illegal, do you have any reason for bringing that crap up here? What the hell are you talking about, kudos for following the rules for in getting all the required releases to use an image of a commercial airplane as part of a photography web site promotion.
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