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Ryadiia - 28 May 2007 08:17 GMT

I bought one of the very first "pro pack" 10D kits in Australia. The camera
has been a stellar performer. I had the mirror/shutter replaced a few
month's ago and it still amazes me with it's image quality. If I had to
choose between my 10D and 20D if I could only take one or the other, I'd
take the 10D. Oddly enough, the 10D doesn't like the Sigma 70 -200 F2.8 as
much as it likes the 4 year old Canon 70 - 200 F/2.8. It's happy with all
the other Sigma's I have. http://www.ryadia.com/PFF/thebirds.htm

Having said all of that, I ordered a Fuji S5 today. I don't have any lenses
for it but According to some Nikonians I won't need any. Nikon stuff only
needs a pin stuck through the body cap to get great pic - right?

Seriously... I will definitely buy a lens or two but I'm in no rush. The
real concern is finding a replacement for my 120 -300 F/2.8 Sigma. It cost
over $2k AUD. I'd shudder at the thought of how much a Nikon equal is going
to cost. Maybe it's a good reason to keep the Canon stuff.

Anyway. I am buying the Fuji specifically for weddings. I'd ideally like a
big aperture lens somewhere in the range of 20 to 120. I'd welcome any
suggestions from Nikon owners.

Douglas

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 28 May 2007 14:32 GMT

> Having said all of that, I ordered a Fuji S5 today. I don't have any
> lenses for it but According to some Nikonians I won't need any. Nikon
> stuff only needs a pin stuck through the body cap to get great pic -
> right?

The S5 is basically a D200 with a Fuji sensor and color engine. So, buy any
Nikkor you want except DX lenses and you'll be fine.

> Seriously... I will definitely buy a lens or two but I'm in no rush.
> The real concern is finding a replacement for my 120 -300 F/2.8
> Sigma. It cost over $2k AUD. I'd shudder at the thought of how much a
> Nikon equal is going to cost. Maybe it's a good reason to keep the
> Canon stuff.

If you want to stick with Canon glass or its aftermarket equivalent you
probably should consider a 5D or the new Mk III.

> Anyway. I am buying the Fuji specifically for weddings. I'd ideally
> like a big aperture lens somewhere in the range of 20 to 120. I'd
> welcome any suggestions from Nikon owners.

Well, that limits you to the 85/1.4, 50/1.4, 28/1.4 in AF primes. You can
always get the 17-35/2.8, 28-70/2.8, and 70-200/2.8 VR. Again, no DX lenses
for this beast.

Rita

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Noons - 28 May 2007 22:58 GMT

> Well, that limits you to the 85/1.4, 50/1.4, 28/1.4 in AF primes. You can
> always get the 17-35/2.8, 28-70/2.8, and 70-200/2.8 VR. Again, no DX lenses
> for this beast.

er....
the s5 is an aps-c size sensor camera. Not a full frame one.
DX lenses would therefore be perfectly fine for it.
Except of course few dx lenses have anywhere near a decent
max aperture...

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Ryadiia - 28 May 2007 23:09 GMT

On May 28, 11:32 pm, Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote:

> Well, that limits you to the 85/1.4, 50/1.4, 28/1.4 in AF primes. You can
> always get the 17-35/2.8, 28-70/2.8, and 70-200/2.8 VR. Again, no DX
> lenses
> for this beast.

er....
the s5 is an aps-c size sensor camera. Not a full frame one.
DX lenses would therefore be perfectly fine for it.
Except of course few dx lenses have anywhere near a decent
max aperture...

Having seen some results from DX lenses I am not of the opinion they are
going to become legendary for Nikon but I could be wrong. This is why I
asked for advice from those more knowledgable than I in this area.

I have some Digital only lenses for my Canon gear and regreted having bought
them when I bought a 5D last year. I wouldn't like the same to occur with
the Fuji - not that either Fuji or Nikon have announced a FF sensor. You
never know, they might.

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That_Rich - 28 May 2007 23:49 GMT

>Douglas,
>Those who can, just do it.
>Those who can't become bullies.
>http://www.usenet-bully-faq.org/

This website tries to load a trojan.
Nice.

RP©

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Ryadiia - 29 May 2007 04:11 GMT

>>Douglas,
>>Those who can, just do it.
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>
> RP©

Sorry about that Rich.
Someone must have sabotaged the site. I notified the owner but in the mean
time if you have an interest in the issue, This site is clean:
http://www.bullyonline.org

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 29 May 2007 00:40 GMT

>> Well, that limits you to the 85/1.4, 50/1.4, 28/1.4 in AF primes.
>> You can always get the 17-35/2.8, 28-70/2.8, and 70-200/2.8 VR.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Except of course few dx lenses have anywhere near a decent
> max aperture...

Why would you waste good money on an S5 and cripple it with a DX lens? Yes,
I'm aware that the S5 is APS-C, so is the D200 and D2x. I dread the
thoughts of a DX lens touching either body. The S5 has the advantage over
the D200 with better noise reduction and superior dynamic range, but there
are lots of other features and quirks within the Fuji system that make this
camera unsuitable for anything other than wedding photography. I would
simply wait for Nikon's next release before buying into the S5. Plus, the
OP already claims to have a 5D, so I don't see the logic in going with
Fuji/Nikon. If he wants to do it right he can always slap some of the
classic Nikkors on the 5D and enjoy life to its fullest.

Rita

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Ryadiia - 29 May 2007 04:09 GMT

>>> Well, that limits you to the 85/1.4, 50/1.4, 28/1.4 in AF primes.
>>> You can always get the 17-35/2.8, 28-70/2.8, and 70-200/2.8 VR.
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>
> Rita

It's very hard, Rita for three photographers to all use one camera at the
same time whilst they are all in different locations! I don't feel so
endeared to the 5D that I would want a second one. Yes it takes nice
pictures. No, it hasn't improved substantially over any other Canon SLR in
the areas I need it for. It still has issues I believe are crippling for the
purpose of making even more sales of expensive lenses.

It may surprise you to learn that the 20D and 5D both sync their flash at
1/60th in program mode which is a very handy mode to use in the middle of a
crowd when shooting at intervals where chimping is not possible!

The Fuji syncs at 1/250th. The difference would be fuzzy shots from the
Canons compared to sharp ones from the Fuji when a 24 -70 "L" lens or it's
equal and the flash on a camera their size starts to question your muscle
strength about an hour into holding it in one hand.

The HDR of the Fuji will make shooting white wedding dresses beside black
suits in bright sunlight, a simplified process. Instead of shooting 3 or
more shots and messing around with software to make them all fit, the Fuji
promises to do it with one shot. I believe the Fuji also has a more useful
flash system (inherited from Nikon) than Canon have - FOR MY PURPOSE.

Douglas

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mark.thomas.7@gmail.com - 29 May 2007 10:16 GMT

> The HDR of the Fuji will make shooting white wedding dresses beside black
> suits in bright sunlight, a simplified process. Instead of shooting 3 or
> more shots and messing around with software to make them all fit...

Douglas, I'm seriously impressed that you would do this during a
wedding. Can you show us at least one example of the results of this
technique? Don't worry, you can make it a small example, so no-one
would want to steal it...

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Ryadiia - 29 May 2007 23:18 GMT

>> The HDR of the Fuji will make shooting white wedding dresses beside black
>> suits in bright sunlight, a simplified process. Instead of shooting 3 or
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> technique? Don't worry, you can make it a small example, so no-one
> would want to steal it...

NO.

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mark.thomas.7@gmail.com - 31 May 2007 10:26 GMT

> <mark.thoma...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> NO.

..translated as - I was bullshitting. Woops - did I think that
aloud? What I meant was..

Well, that's most surprising, from such a carer and sharer as
yourself.

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