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Photo Forum / Film Photography / 35 mm / December 2006For those of you with glasses or declining eyesight...
...do you keep your glasses on (I can't and won't do contact lenses) when looking through the viewfinder, or do you depend on the in-camera adjustments for eyesight that many newer cameras have? I usually take my glasses off, but as I get older it's getting harder and harder to manually focus and I think I may have to adjust my methods. TheDave? wrote: > ...do you keep your glasses on (I can't and won't do contact lenses) > when looking through the viewfinder, or do you depend on the in-camera [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and harder to manually focus and I think I may have to adjust my > methods. I pretty much have to leave my glasses on since the adjustment range of the camera's viewfinder does not go far enough for my eyesight. Scott > TheDave(c) wrote: >> ...do you keep your glasses on (I can't and won't do contact lenses) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Scott Doesn't it depend if you are near-sighted or far-sighted? For many kinds of photography you should shoot with both eyes open. I can see fine in the distance without my glasses, so I take them off to compose and shoot the shot. I use the camera's diopter adjustment to view the focusing screen through the viewfinder and my other eye watches the wider action. I have to put my glasses back on to adjust any camera settings that don't show in the viewfinder. If the photographer has poor distance vision without glasses, then wouldn't she/he have to keep them on when shooting with both eyes in order for the wide action seen by the unobstructed eye to be in focus? BTW, Canon sells an accessory Dioptric Adjustment Lens that goes as high as +3. I presume other manufactures to also. >> TheDave(c) wrote: >>> ...do you keep your glasses on (I can't and won't do contact lenses) [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > BTW, Canon sells an accessory Dioptric Adjustment Lens that goes as high as > +3. I presume other manufactures to also. Then I have been shooting wrong for centuries. And backwards, almost. I stick my left eye onto the viewfinder, usually with glasses on. I then close my right eye. Should I retrain self to use right eye and keep both open? I was thinking about this before this thread came up.  SignatureJohn McWilliams > Then I have been shooting wrong for centuries. And backwards, almost. I > stick my left eye onto the viewfinder, usually with glasses on. I then > close my right eye. As do I. I am mixed dominant -- right-handed but left-eyed. I am also extremely nearsighted and can't reliably manualy focus an eye-level SLR any more. So I use rangefinders (Leica, Mamiya 7), waist-level SLRs & TLRs (Exacta, Rollei, Hasselblad), auto-focus (Nikon, Mamiya 645) and view cameras (8x10). I suppose if I could wear contact lenses it would make a big difference, but not with -11 vision. I'm glad I'm not a cinematographer -- without contacts I would have to get a custom diopter insert made by Arriflex since their cameras rely on the eye to block light coming in the viewfinder when the (rotary) shutter is open. Signaturej fabian looked good on paper email address subject to subtraction John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > Then I have been shooting wrong for centuries. And backwards, almost. > I stick my left eye onto the viewfinder, usually with glasses on. I > then close my right eye. > > Should I retrain self to use right eye and keep both open? I was > thinking about this before this thread came up. I wouldn't call it "wrong" to use one eye. I just think for sports and other types of fast moving action, it's very helpful to use both eyes and many people that I know do so. In hockey or football for example, it's so much easier to see the direction the play is moving and have the camera in place before the action even appears in the lens. There is no advantage that I know to using both eyes for static or slow moving subject. It's just that it's hard to switch from one style to another so people who shoot with both eyes open usually do so all the time. I prefer to keep my dominant eye to the lens and my other eye open for the wide view. >> Then I have been shooting wrong for centuries. And backwards, almost. >> I stick my left eye onto the viewfinder, usually with glasses on. I [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > with both eyes open usually do so all the time. I prefer to keep my > dominant eye to the lens and my other eye open for the wide view. It's also wise to keep both eyes open when shooting football because you sort of want to see if you're going to get run over or not. ;O) Jay Beckman Chandler, AZ www.pbase.com/flyingphotog > Mardon wrote: > John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > usually do so all the time. I prefer to keep my dominant eye to the > lens and my other eye open for the wide view. I use one eye, also, but my right eye. I have been doing more football lately, but generally don't do much fast-action stuff. > For many kinds of photography you should shoot with both > eyes open. I sure don't. Both eyes open would be the exception to the exception and I haven't found it yet. If I am following fast action I use an 'action finder' or put a wire frame sports finder in the accy shoe. You can use the two eyes technique with a Leica M3 with only a bit of eyestrain -- until it comes time to use the rangefinder. I suppose if you use a zoom lens at the right setting so you get a virtual 1:1 in the finder things might work. I see no advantage to it -- but I am no sports photographer, a scrimmage at Boy Scout camp or kids playing Frisbee with the dog pretty much covers my action oeuvre. SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com $...do you keep your glasses on (I can't and won't do contact lenses) $when looking through the viewfinder, or do you depend on the in-camera $adjustments for eyesight that many newer cameras have? I prefer to shoot without glasses on. I can't see the whole viewfinder if I leave my glasses on, and the gap between my face and the camera allows a lot of light to get in and cause problems if I have glasses on. With my Canon EOS Elan II, I usually kept my glasses on, as the camera didn't have built-in dioptric correction and I never got around to buying a dioptric correction eyepiece for it. When I upgraded to an Elan 7E, I was happy that it had dioptric correction, so I could shoot without glasses. (As well, eye-controlled focusing worked very well on that camera for me without glasses, but I could never get it to calibrate well with glasses on.) I've now gone digital, with a 20D, which also has dioptric correction built-in, and again, I shoot without glasses when possible. SignatureStephen M. Dunn <stephen@stevedunn.ca> >>>----------------> http://www.stevedunn.ca/ <----------------<<< ------------------------------------------------------------------ Say hi to my cat -- http://www.stevedunn.ca/photos/toby/ > Stephen M. Dunn wrote: > I prefer to shoot without glasses on. I can't see the whole > viewfinder if I leave my glasses on, and the gap between my face and > the camera allows a lot of light to get in and cause problems if I > have glasses on. Even though I'm nearsighted, I prefer to take my glasses off for the same reason you mention. > > Stephen M. Dunn wrote: > > I prefer to shoot without glasses on. I can't see the whole [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Even though I'm nearsighted, I prefer to take my glasses off for the > same reason you mention. I keep my glasses on for most cameras, but the Retina IIa gives me a problem because I can only see the whole of the finder field if I take them off. So with that camera I use the rangefinder with my glasses on, and then either take them off to compose the now-fuzzy scene or use an auxiliary wire frame finder. Without my glasses I can see sharply to all of 23cm so I need them for almost everything. My SLRs (both Nikons) have finders that work well with glasses so they're not a problem, and with a TLR the issue doesn't arise at all. SignatureMatthew Winn [If replying by mail remove the "r" from "urk"] > ...do you keep your glasses on (I can't and won't do contact lenses) > when looking through the viewfinder, or do you depend on the in-camera > adjustments for eyesight that many newer cameras have? Yes and yes. > I usually take my glasses off, but as I get older it's getting harder > and harder to manually focus and I think I may have to adjust my > methods. With enough diopter adjustment in the viewfinder there shouldn't be much problem unless you have a lot of astigmatism. Do you have the adjustment cranked to the limit? If so, you may be just able to get the screen in focus but it is causing eye strain - you think things are all right but they aren't. If you are at the limit of adjustment try adding a diopter lens such that your eyes are happy with the adjustment lever closer to the middle of the range. I am nearsighted, but wearing glasses I am farsighted. Nikons as they come from the factory are set for an apparent viewing distance of one meter and as I have lost focusing accommodation I have trouble focusing that close with regular distance eyeglasses [or top of the bifocals]. So for focusing with glasses I have changed the diopters in my Nikons to '0' (a +1 lens labeled '0') that moves the apparent viewing distance from 1 meter to infinity. Made a terrific improvement. The only camera with adjustable diopter is my F4S and I have a fixed diopter lens of [darned if I can remember but not '0' (+1)] diopters so the adjustment range on the finder is enough to accommodate no glasses and glasses. For critical work I use a 6x chimney finder with no glasses. SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com > Nicholas O. Lindan wrote: > > ...do you keep your glasses on (I can't and won't do contact lenses) [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > such that your eyes are happy with the adjustment lever closer > to the middle of the range. Mine isn't to the limit, yet. > I am nearsighted, but wearing glasses I am farsighted. This is exactly my situation. I can see and read just fine close-up, but need glasses for distance. > Nikons as they come from the factory are set for an apparent > viewing distance of one meter and as I have lost focusing [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > For critical work I use a 6x chimney finder with no glasses. You can buy a 1.5 magnifyer for your eye peice it works great for us with declinig vision. Walter > > ...do you keep your glasses on (I can't and won't do contact lenses) > > when looking through the viewfinder, or do you depend on the in-camera [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm > n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com > ...do you keep your glasses on (I can't and won't do contact lenses) > when looking through the viewfinder, or do you depend on the in-camera > adjustments for eyesight that many newer cameras have? I use the diopter adjustment on my 35mm gear and my glasses with my Hasselblad. Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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