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Photo Forum / Film Photography / 35 mm / December 2006expired film
I have an unopened 4 pack of Kodak Gold 200 color neg film. The expiration was 02 / 2006. Can I still use this ? Should I expect some sort of color shift or other changes? 2nd question: I'm just getting back into film photography. How much color correction can one do with Photo Shop? Can you fix up expired film in photo shop? Can you use daylight film indoors with either incandescent or flourescent lights and still correct it in photo shop? thanks - Bob > I have an unopened 4 pack of Kodak Gold 200 color neg film. The > expiration was 02 / 2006. > Can I still use this ? Should I expect some sort of color shift or > other changes? Depending on how it's kept (esp. temperature) and speed, expired film can be usable for (many) years. The limitations to this statement are when *exact* color reproduction is needed with (mainly) slide film. Even there, a few months past the expiration date are unlikely to be visible. After many years (again, depending on several conditions, more so with faster films & higher temperatures) expired film will show more veiling, lack of contrast, color shift and, eventually, spots & artifacts. Kept in a refrigerator, film keeps several times longer. In a freezer, almost indefinitely. > I'm just getting back into film photography. How much color correction > can one do with Photo Shop? Lots! I've recovered barely visible B&W photographs from around 1900 and (at least mostly) restored color from badly faded slides & film from the early 1950's. > Can you fix up expired film in photo shop? Yes, until the color shifts & veiling start meaning actually losing significant information, or spots & other artifacts start becoming visible (again, usually after several/many years) > Can you use daylight film > indoors with either incandescent or flourescent lights and still > correct it in photo shop? To a large degree and in practice, yes, though you will lose some color information (this is mainly significant with slides, when 100% accurate color is needed, for example in the case of art reproductions). >> Can you use daylight film >> indoors with either incandescent or flourescent lights and still [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > information (this is mainly significant with slides, when 100% accurate > color is needed, for example in the case of art reproductions). P.S. Fluorescent light - depending on the type - can greatly limit your color range. In the worst case, you might get it to look "o.k.-ish", depending on the subject. >>> Can you use daylight film >>> indoors with either incandescent or flourescent lights and still [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > color range. In the worst case, you might get it to look "o.k.-ish", > depending on the subject. It's also tough to compensate for light that is very narrow bandwidth, such as these gold high pressure sodium street lights. Photoshop has trouble adding color that is not already there in some reasonable quantity..... >> Can you use daylight film >> indoors with either incandescent or flourescent lights and still [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > information (this is mainly significant with slides, when 100% accurate > color is needed, for example in the case of art reproductions). P.S. Fluorescent light - depending on the type - can greatly limit your color range. In the worst case, you might get it to look "o.k.-ish", depending on the subject. > I have an unopened 4 pack of Kodak Gold 200 color neg film. The > expiration was 02 / 2006. > Can I still use this ? Should I expect some sort of color shift or > other changes? It will be fine if it has been kept at room temperature or cooler. If it was in the fridge it will be good for several years to come. > 2nd question: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > indoors with either incandescent or fluorescent lights and still > correct it in photo shop? It is easier to fix colours on negative film if it has been exposed a little more than the meter says. If you shoot colour negative in incandescent light the red layer will get extra exposure and the blue layer not enough. If you expose a stop or two extra then the blue layer will get enough and the red layer will still be okay because there is plenty of overexposure latitude. If you plan ahead, it is better to use a filter over the lens to correct the colour before it reaches the film. An 80A filter, while intended for 3200K floods will work fine with 2800-2900K household incandescents with negative film. Peter.  Signaturepirwin@ktb.net >> I'm just getting back into film photography. How much color correction >> can one do with Photo Shop? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > will get enough and the red layer will still be okay > because there is plenty of overexposure latitude. Ta! That's something I need to write on the back of my hand or somewhere... Cheers, Chris Stick it in your freezer, that'll stop it from ageing. When you know you want to shot a roll, take it out the night before and let it come to room temp then when ready load your camera. I've got film that's 10 years od in y freezer. SignatureThere are those who believe that life here, began out there, far across the universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltechs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may yet be brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the heavens. The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord Sidewalk Astronomy www.sidewalkastronomy.info The Church of Eternity http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html >I have an unopened 4 pack of Kodak Gold 200 color neg film. The > expiration was 02 / 2006. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > correct it in photo shop? > thanks - Bob > I have an unopened 4 pack of Kodak Gold 200 color neg film. The > expiration was 02 / 2006. > Can I still use this ? Should I expect some sort of color shift or > other changes? Sholud be no real problem, color shifts will be minimal (imperceptible in the prints) if the film was kept at at least room temperature. > 2nd question: > > I'm just getting back into film photography. How much color correction > can one do with Photo Shop? Tons. You can select by color and shift that in saturation and hue a great deal. > Can you fix up expired film in photo shop? Can you use daylight film > indoors with either incandescent or flourescent lights and still > correct it in photo shop? Yes... with some care. It is not possible to do a "perfect" conversion as color information is missing, but close enough that it is not noticeable. Cheers, Alan |
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