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iamcanadian - 21 Nov 2006 14:28 GMT
I am going back to my slr film camera after a few years of digtial
point and shoot. I have purchased some print film; Kodak uc 100 and
400. (I see several recommendations but they are old postings.) I would
appeciate any suggestions on the current market. I used to shoot slide,
but I live in a small town now and it is impossible to get. (I can
order it but the shipping back and forth is too much, on a continuing
basis.) I am a nature/landscape photographer living in an area
surrounded by lakes and streams. I am looking for the most economical
way to continue my hobby, without paying for a pro lab! I do have a
scanner but it is painfully slow. Is it better to let the commercial
lab make a cd?Thanks for your advice ahead of time. (I should mention
the places I can develop print are limited to the usual drugstore,
Walmart chains. I do, however have access to a pro lab when I get that
"need to frame shot".)
Raphael Bustin - 21 Nov 2006 14:38 GMT
>I am going back to my slr film camera after a few years of digtial
>point and shoot. I have purchased some print film; Kodak uc 100 and
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>Walmart chains. I do, however have access to a pro lab when I get that
>"need to frame shot".)

For C41 film, try Fuji Reala.

For 35mm film scanners, get yourself a Nikon Coolscan V
or a Minolta 5400 if you can find a used one in good
condition.  The former is US $550 (new) at BH Photo.  
The latter is discontinued, so the used market is
your best bet.

rafe b
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jeremy - 21 Nov 2006 15:26 GMT
>I am going back to my slr film camera after a few years of digtial
> point and shoot. I have purchased some print film; Kodak uc 100 and
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> Walmart chains. I do, however have access to a pro lab when I get that
> "need to frame shot".)

Shoot transparencies to see just how much quality your lens is capable of
delivering.  Virtually all consumer-type photofinishing for color negative
film will end up yielding cheapo prints, and you may end up thinking that
your film shots are really poor.

If you are on a budget and must get in as cheaply as possible I recommend
the PrimeFilm PF3650Pro3 scanner, available on Amazon at about $350.00.  It
has Digital ICE3, and that sets it apart from the rest of the pack of
low-end film scanners.  The Nikons are preferable, if you can afford them.
Without a decent film scanner your having to rely upon photofinishers to
make machine-made prints will limit your results.

Film scanners may be more economical if you already have decent bodies and
lenses.  A scanner does, in a sense, turn all of your film cameras into
digital cameras.  I routinely take my film to CVS Pharmacy for negative
development only.  They charge $2.50, and the process takes under 15
minutes, so I just wait at the counter for them.  They are instructed not to
cut the roll, but instead to roll them up and return them in the plastic
film canister.  I then put the roll into my scanner (it accommodates
continuous rolls as long as 40 frames), I do a quick pre-scan, then pick out
the images I want to scan and I come back in 2 hours and the job is done.  I
find that much more preferable to using a scanner that requires you to cut
the film into strips, then insert the strips in film carriers.  That
requires inserting a new strip every 20 minutes or so, rather than just
letting the scanner do all the work.

Before you even think of chucking all your film equipment, do read this page
from Bob Monaghan's site, which gives you excellent reasons to stick with
film, or at least, to not completely abandon film:

http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/filmwins.html

Check amazon.com for a good price on a film scanner.  They also have a very
liberal return policy.
Nicholas O. Lindan - 21 Nov 2006 15:30 GMT
> I am going back to my slr film camera after a few years of digtial
> point and shoot.  I used to shoot slide, but I live in a small town
> now and it is impossible to get.

Kodachrome 64 is still the best film available*.  I live in medium
sized city and it is only conveniently available from NYC.  Processing
is by mail, as it has always been, but the quality of processing
is better than ever.

FWIW, _all_ my slide film comes from NYC, and it all gets processed
by Dwayne's so I don't see Kodachrome being any hassle over E6
slides.  If you need the slides in an hour then the situation
is different - but I think most use digital if the image is needed
in a hurry.

Ah, I just notice you are in Canada.  You can get the film from Toronto
I am sure but for processing it has to go to Dwayne's in Kansas.
But Kodachrome has [at a guess] always had to go to the States for
processing.

> I am looking for the most economical
> way to continue my hobby, without paying for a pro lab! I do have a
> scanner but it is painfully slow.

Ditto here, they are all painfully slow AFAIK, but I only scan what
I really want and that's maybe 1 or 2 shots/roll.  Scanning 'good
enough' for WWW snapshot use at 300-600 dpi is reasonably fast.

> Is it better to let the commercial lab make a cd?

My experience is the scans are pretty low quality though plenty
good enough for any WWW use.  On the upside, they manage to do
it without any dust on the image.

* IMO, chacun a son gout, etc., etc.

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iamcanadian - 21 Nov 2006 15:53 GMT
I always shot in Kodak 25 or 64 in the past. I know that 25 is gone
now. I have a Epson 3490 scanner that has served well for photos and
copying. The negatives are another story. Guess I should find out
prices on slide and bite the bullet!

> > I am going back to my slr film camera after a few years of digtial
> > point and shoot.  I used to shoot slide, but I live in a small town
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> n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com
Starlord - 21 Nov 2006 15:32 GMT
I shoot a lot of fuji film, and for a real good deal, try www.snapfish.com I
have well over 500 images online, and for $5.75 a roll, you get your neg's,
your prints, postage paid both ways and they scan you neg's and story them
online as jpg's that you can copy too.

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>I am going back to my slr film camera after a few years of digtial
> point and shoot. I have purchased some print film; Kodak uc 100 and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Walmart chains. I do, however have access to a pro lab when I get that
> "need to frame shot".)
Michael Benveniste - 22 Nov 2006 13:56 GMT
> I am going back to my slr film camera after a few years of
> digtial point and shoot.

Welcome home!

> I have purchased some print film; Kodak uc 100 and 400. (I see
> several recommendations but they are old postings.) I would
> appeciate any suggestions on the current market.

Kodak UC100 and UC400 are my "tourist" films.  They each have
more exposure latitude than slide film, and produce nice printed
landscapes.  While I don't use them for portrature, they also
do a reasonable job with environmental candids.  For portraits,
I prefer Fuji's 160S and 400H.

But as a general rule, if I'm hauling a tripod to the water's
edge for landscapes, I leave the C-41 film at home and take
either Velvia 100 slide film or Delta 100 black and white.

> Is it better to let the commercial lab make a cd?  Thanks for
> your advice ahead of time. (I should mention the places I can
> develop print are limited to the usual drugstore, Walmart chains.
> I do, however have access to a pro lab when I get that
> "need to frame shot".)

Perhaps the most inexpensive way to shoot film is to have a
consumer outlet like WalMart develop your film and create a
CD without printing any of the shots.  Last time I checked,
WalMart charges about $4 for this service.  Proof from the
CD, then scan and/or print the "keepers."

As with any mass-market minilab, you run the risk of an
undertrained or sloppy operator hurting your negatives.  I
use a couple of local pro labs for the bulk of my shooting,
but I've yet to have WalMart spoil a negative.

The one problem I've found with this approach is color
accuracy -- WalMart scans sometimes have a noticeable color
cast even on a calibrated monitor.

Your pro lab likely offers the same service with more
consistency and less risk of loss.  Unless I'm on the
road or in a hurry, I'll pay the extra money, both for
the quality and to support the local business.

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iamcanadian - 23 Nov 2006 00:27 GMT
Thanks for the advice Michael, I appreciate it.  I think I will do the
cd route and then i can get the pro lab to do the shots I really want.
I have never tried Velvia,  I was always a Kodak 25 (sadly gone) or 64.
Guess it's time to branch out and try new things, given the limited
availability of film. Thanks to all for responding!

> > I am going back to my slr film camera after a few years of
> > digtial point and shoot.
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