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Photo Forum / Film Photography / 35 mm / November 2006Ricoh SLR
Some 20 + years ago (1985?)I bought a black Ricoh SLR. At that time it was new, but discontinued and was the last one on the shelf of the camera shop. Two weeks later it was stolen. I think I'd like to get it back! (well get one just like it anyways <g>) Problem is, I can't remember the model. In my foggy memory I think it looked like one of the KR .... series cameras but I'm not sure. I definitely remember that it could operate without batteries. I also think (maybe?) that it had an auto or semi auto mode as well as a fully manual exposure mode, (but could be wrong about that). Is that enough info? Can anyone tell me the model of my long lost Ricoh? -Bob > Some 20 + years ago (1985?)I bought a black Ricoh SLR. At that time it > was new, but discontinued and was the last one on the shelf of the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Can anyone tell me the model of my long lost Ricoh? > -Bob No, but if all else fails, try browsing the manuals here until you see the right one: http://www.butkus.org/chinon/#RICOH Perhaps an Ebay search might be a better way... I used to have a KR-10M, black and similar specs but it was a motor driven model that required batteries. Ricoh made/make some very good, and underrated imo, cameras. I currently own one of their little 4Mp compacts for when I'm not wanting to carry anything heavy or expensive. > Some 20 + years ago (1985?)I bought a black Ricoh SLR. > [I want one just like it...] > Can anyone tell me the model of my long lost Ricoh? Google knows all. Is the camera one of these: http://www.butkus.org/chinon/ricoh/ricoh_slr_systems/ricoh_slr_systems.htm only you can pick it out... The Ricohs take Pentax 'K' mount lenses so there won't be any problem finding optics that fit. A glance at ebay says they go for a very reasonable [or sickeningly low, if one is a die hard film user] price: $25 average/median with a $10-$100 range. At those prices you should be able to buy one of each model.  SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com > > Some 20 + years ago (1985?)I bought a black Ricoh SLR. > > [I want one just like it...] [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > only you can pick it out... There is also the XR-X, which IIRC was the top of the range model, spot metering and what have you.:- http://www.butkus.org/chinon/ebay/ricoh_xr-x.htm Ok, let's see if I have technical knowledge needed to select the camera. 1. I assume that an electronic shutter needs a battery. 2. A mechanical shutter does not need a battery. My camera had a manual exp. mode, an auto exp. mode, and could also be used without a battery. 1. Was there a such thing as an electro-mechanical shutter that could also work in auto mode with a battery and still be a fully functioning mechanical shutter without a battery? 2. If the answer to the above question is "No", then perhaps my model was an electronic shutter with an X shutter setting ? (in that case both the XR-2s and KR-10 would qualify). > 1. Was there a such thing as an electro-mechanical shutter that could > also work in auto mode with a battery and still be a fully functioning > mechanical shutter without a battery? Pentax ME Super, for one, defaults to the X-Sync speed of 1/125th without a battery. Everything else works of course. > 1. Was there a such thing as an electro-mechanical shutter that could > also work in auto mode with a battery and still be a fully functioning > mechanical shutter without a battery? That's exactly what the "M90" setting did on my Nikon FEs. BTW, I did own and use a Ricoh KR camera for a number of years. I think it was the KR-5S or something like that. Had a Pentax lens mount, if I recall. I chose it because it was cheap and relatively light for an SLR, and carried it with me over 700+ miles of the Appalachian Trail. A few of my favorite pix were taken with that camera. rafe b www.terrapinphoto.com <bstephens1ster@gmail.com> wrote in message > 1. Was there a such thing as an electro-mechanical shutter that could > also work in auto mode with a battery and still be a fully functioning > mechanical shutter without a battery? Pentax ES and its subsequent model, ES-II had fully mechanical shutters that also operated electronically. The shutter speed dial had about 6 manual shutter speeds--it was not a case where a lack of a working battery caused the shutter to default to only one speed. I am unaware of any other camera that used that particular shutter arrangemement. > <bstephens1ster@gmail.com> wrote in message >> 1. Was there a such thing as an electro-mechanical shutter that could [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I am unaware of any other camera that used that particular shutter > arrangemement. Pentax LX did 1/2000 down to X (1/50) upon battery failure. > Ok, let's see if I have technical knowledge needed to select the > camera. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > also work in auto mode with a battery and still be a fully functioning > mechanical shutter without a battery? Yes. That is the way auto cameras were made until the early 70's. The current Nikon F3a works in this manner: a normally mechanical shutter that can also be controlled electronically by solenoids. Most early auto cameras with electronic shutters have a manual mode where the shutter works without batteries but only at one speed. SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com > bstephens1ster wrote; > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Most early auto cameras with electronic shutters have a manual mode where > the shutter works without batteries but only at one speed. Thanks, As far as I can tell, none of the auto Ricoh XR or KR models had the ability for multiple shutter speeds without a battery -- at least the info on the web doesn't indicate a feature like that. The XR2 and KR10 do have single speed capability. Thanks,everyone this has been educational and interesting. > In my foggy memory I think it looked like one of the KR .... series > cameras but I'm not sure. I definitely remember that it could operate [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -Bob > I think the last all mechanical was the Singlex II, but mine jambed. I have a KR-10, which is a smaller and lighter model, but it's all electronic w/ auto and manual speeds, but it doesn't work at all. I was doing so good w/ Ricoh's my friend gave me 3 XR-2s, and a couple of winders. Beautiful. Auto/Man/125 sync/ auto multi exp/DOF/ View finder blackout. The 35 f2.8 is a super lens, otherwise I use Pentax "K" mount lenses. The silver oxide batteries in the camera seem to last forever as do the AAs in the motors, prolly cause the motor ain't no record breaker, but I only use it on single anyway. That's it, that's all I know. Bob Hickey . I have a KR-10, ... but it doesn't work at all. I was > doing so good w/ Ricoh's my friend gave me 3 XR-2s, and a couple of winders. > Beautiful. Bob, >From the basic descriptions on the web, the XR2 and KR10 seem like similar cameras. What are the differences in actual use? Also, do you know what the difference between an XR-2 and an XR-2s is? I can't seem to find the answer on the web pages I've googled. -Bob > Bob, > >From the basic descriptions on the web, the XR2 and KR10 seem like [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I can't seem to find the answer on the web pages I've googled. > -Bob They prolly look the same but the KR-10 is a little shorter, lighter and slowly turning to plastic; about the same size as a Pentax ME. I have an XR-1s and a couple XR-2s. All I can see is the 2s has a viewfinder shutter for long exposures, the 1s doesn't. Otherwise,I see no difference. Both are really fun to use and despite their age, the meters still work. Very rare. I guess the "s" means the same as the "XR". Bob Hickey |
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