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Neo-con Gullibility

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Joseph Kewfi - 18 Nov 2006 02:31 GMT
Surprise Surprise.......

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/alqaeda-spy-sought-to-overthrow-saddam/2006/11/
17/1163266785229.html

niceparking@gmail.com - 18 Nov 2006 04:27 GMT
> Surprise Surprise.......
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/alqaeda-spy-sought-to-overthrow-saddam/2006/11/
17/1163266785229.html

It's 100% ridiculous to propose that this war was masterminded from the
middle east when Paul Wolfowitz and D. Rumsfeld had been planning for
it for over 20 years.

Joseph, you want to join the group, then please do.  All we hear out of
you is this political stuff.  Ask yourself, what kind of old man am I
going to be?
Joseph Kewfi - 18 Nov 2006 14:33 GMT
> Joseph, you want to join the group, then please do.  All we hear out of
> you is this political stuff.  Ask yourself, what kind of old man am I
> going to be?

wise ;-]

>> Surprise Surprise.......
>>
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> you is this political stuff.  Ask yourself, what kind of old man am I
> going to be?
Joseph Kewfi - 18 Nov 2006 17:29 GMT
> It's 100% ridiculous to propose that this war was masterminded from the
> middle east when Paul Wolfowitz and D. Rumsfeld had been planning for
> it for over 20 years.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/iraq-invasion-a-disaster-concedes-british-pm/20
06/11/18/1163266833755.html


>> Surprise Surprise.......
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> you is this political stuff.  Ask yourself, what kind of old man am I
> going to be?
niceparking@gmail.com - 18 Nov 2006 18:09 GMT
> > It's 100% ridiculous to propose that this war was masterminded from the
> > middle east when Paul Wolfowitz and D. Rumsfeld had been planning for
> > it for over 20 years.
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/iraq-invasion-a-disaster-concedes-british-pm/20
06/11/18/1163266833755.html

Well then I guess part of their plan was to plant Wolfowitz in the US
60 odd years ago, right?  Look, it was the neo-cons who got us into
this, that and a complicit US society.  If there are external forces at
play, they should have taken that into account.  There is no one else
to blame for this mess.  You're starting to sound like a republican...

Regardless, it's one thing to post off topic subjects occasionally when
you're an active part of a group, and quite another when that's all
you're posting.  You're starting to look like a troll, and if it looks
like one long enough, often enough, then it is one.
Pudentame - 18 Nov 2006 19:22 GMT
> > Surprise Surprise.......
> >
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> middle east when Paul Wolfowitz and D. Rumsfeld had been planning for
> it for over 20 years.

Actually not much more than 8 years or so ... from about 1998 when they
finally realized just how badly they'd screwed the pooch back in 91.

But I didn't get the idea the guy was a mastermind who fooled the US
government into invading Iraq, as much as there's a little post-torture
bravado claiming that he deliberately encouraged the pre-existing
stupidity. And that's bogus.

Anyone with a lick of common sense knows that torture doesn't produce
intelligence. The victim doesn't tell the "truth", he just tells you
what he thinks you want to hear so you'll stop torturing him. They could
have just as easily got him to confess to makin' the moon out of green
cheese.

The story just reinforces what's already known about the
administration's getting their own propaganda echoed back to them. They
believed anything that justified what they wanted to do, no matter how
flimsy the source; and ignored (dismissed) anything that contradicted
their ideology.

This "al qaeda" guy wasn't the only one playing the administration for
suckers. Their main man Chalibi, the guy they expected to form the
post-invasion government, turned out to be spying for Iran all along.
Annika1980 - 18 Nov 2006 20:38 GMT
> > The story just reinforces what's already known about the
> administration's getting their own propaganda echoed back to them. They
> believed anything that justified what they wanted to do, no matter how
> flimsy the source; and ignored (dismissed) anything that contradicted
> their ideology.

Exactly.  When their own experts told them that Saddam wasn't involved
in 9/11, the White House didn't want to hear it. When you can
cherry-pick what information you like you can justify anything. I can
probably find "evidence" on the internet that the world will end
tomorrow.  Doesn't mean it's gonna happen, though.
 
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