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Photo Forum / Film Photography / 35 mm / November 2006Rollei QB to Nikon F mount
Hello, I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge of a Rollei QB mount to Nikon F mount adapter (to attach rollei QB lenses to a Nikon F mount camera). Ebay is full of Rollei QB to Canon EOS mounts but I can't find a Rollei to nikon mount. A Eos lens to Nikon F camera adapter would be a welcome alternative. Kind regards, Jan ps.: I am aware that this setup would mean I'd have to work all manual and metering would not work (at least not on my cameras). > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > ps.: I am aware that this setup would mean I'd have to work all manual and > metering would not work (at least not on my cameras). Two "possibilities": 1) A purely mechanical adapter, which wouldn't allow focus to infinity (actually, wouldn't allow focus beyond about 1 meter). 2) An adapter with an optical element, which (if one exists) would slightly lengthen the focal length of the lens and introduce some optical degradation. In practice, not a very useful situation. Chris (who uses Rolleiflex SLRs, loves Zeiss lenses and is also a Nikon F & F2 fan) > Two "possibilities": > 1) A purely mechanical adapter, which wouldn't allow focus to infinity > (actually, wouldn't allow focus beyond about 1 meter). Ow, that doesn't sound good :-( Could you explain me why there would be such big focusing problem? Both camera mounts are 35mm so I don't think the difference in distance between the back lens element and the film can't be that extreme. I understand why infinity focus may be a problem, but why no focus beyond 1 meter? Can you explain the problem? Thanks, Jan >> Two "possibilities": > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > may be a problem, but why no focus beyond 1 meter? > Can you explain the problem? Nikon's F mount goes back to 1959: For historical reasons it has one of the longest film-to-mount distances (as well as a relatively narrow mount diameter). IIRC, the Rollei mount to film distance is shorter. A Rollei QBM lens mount is too wide to fit inside the Nikon's mount: Even with the best machining, the Rollei lens would be about one centimeter in front of the Nikon flange when using an adapter. Add that to the difference in their mount-to-film distances and you'll have the length of the "close up tube" being used. You can test this by (carefully) holding a Rollei lens in front of a Nikon body, allowing a millimeter or two for the hypothetical mount material. The one meter I quoted depends on the focal length - it was based on my test with an 85mm. With wide-angle lenses, the furthest focusing distance will only be a few centimeters! > Nikon's F mount goes back to 1959: For historical reasons it has one of > the longest film-to-mount distances (as well as a relatively narrow > mount diameter). IIRC, the Rollei mount to film distance is shorter. > A Rollei QBM lens mount is too wide to fit inside the Nikon's mount: > Even with the best machining, the Rollei lens would be about one > centimeter in front of the Nikon flange when using an adapter. Add that > to the difference in their mount-to-film distances and you'll have the > length of the "close up tube" being used. > You can test this by (carefully) holding a Rollei lens in front of a > Nikon body, allowing a millimeter or two for the hypothetical mount > material. > The one meter I quoted depends on the focal length - it was based on my > test with an 85mm. With wide-angle lenses, the furthest focusing > distance will only be a few centimeters! Thanks for the clarification! I guess this is also why there's a Nikon lens to Canon body adapter but no Canon lens to Nikon body adapterI guess (easily found at least). Anyone has a spare Rollei SL something they would be willing to donate? ;-) >> Nikon's F mount goes back to 1959: For historical reasons it has one of >> the longest film-to-mount distances (as well as a relatively narrow [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Anyone has a spare Rollei SL something they would be willing to donate? ;-) Well... I will be selling a SL 2000F (and SL35, maybe) in the near future... ;-) More seriously; SL35: Pentax Spotmatic clone, but not as ergonomic and reliable as the original. I've heard of people adapting a Rollei mount to a Spotmatic (to me that sounds dreamy!), but have no clear information. SL 35M (=VSL1): Big, clunky, not so reliable. Some prefer it (esp the Vöigtländer version - they are not identical) to the SL35. Hmmmm... SL 35ME (=VSL2-E): Avoid like the plague! SL-35E (=VSL3-E): A quite nice camera, *if* you can find one that works well (about 50% of those sold don't). The working ones are either the "originally good" ones or the "properly fixed" ones. It's the camera I use most often, but it is nowhere as reliable or indestructible as my favorites. SL 2000F: 35mm motorized Hasselblad. Some electronics not so reliable. Some upgraded to the more reliable SL 3003 electronics (like the one I'm selling - Hint, Hint...). SL 3003: Better ergonomics and more reliable electronics & magazines than the standard SL 2000F SL 3001: Simplified version of the 3003 The camera bodies are not perfect (though the SL 2000F/3001/3003) are in a class of their own. The SL-35E is a nice camera (when you have a good one), but not as good as the comparable Nikon FE, for example. The advantage is getting Zeiss lenses very cheaply. Welcome to the wonderful(?) world of Rolleiflex 35mm SLRs! >>> Nikon's F mount goes back to 1959: For historical reasons it has one of >>> the longest film-to-mount distances (as well as a relatively narrow [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> Anyone has a spare Rollei SL something they would be willing to donate? ;-) > Well... I will be selling a SL 2000F (and SL35, maybe) in the near future... > ;-) > More seriously; > SL35: Pentax Spotmatic clone, but not as ergonomic and reliable as the > original. I've heard of people adapting a Rollei mount to a Spotmatic > (to me that sounds dreamy!), but have no clear information. Not very reliable indeed :-( At least not after 30 years ;-) > SL 35M (=VSL1): Big, clunky, not so reliable. Some prefer it (esp the > Vöigtländer version - they are not identical) to the SL35. Hmmmm... > SL 35ME (=VSL2-E): Avoid like the plague! > SL-35E (=VSL3-E): A quite nice camera, *if* you can find one that works > well (about 50% of those sold don't). The working ones are either the > "originally good" ones or the "properly fixed" ones. > It's the camera I use most often, but it is nowhere as reliable or > indestructible as my favorites. > SL 2000F: 35mm motorized Hasselblad. Some electronics not so reliable. > Some upgraded to the more reliable SL 3003 electronics (like the one I'm > selling - Hint, Hint...). Mail me at jan.keirse@pandora.be if you are serious ;-) This camera has the same mount and works with the old rollei QB lenses? > SL 3003: Better ergonomics and more reliable electronics & magazines > than the standard SL 2000F > SL 3001: Simplified version of the 3003 > The camera bodies are not perfect (though the SL 2000F/3001/3003) are in > a class of their own. > The SL-35E is a nice camera (when you have a good one), but not as good > as the comparable Nikon FE, for example. > The advantage is getting Zeiss lenses very cheaply. Tell me about it! > Welcome to the wonderful(?) world of Rolleiflex 35mm SLRs! I've been in it for years, well, before I got out of it when my dad's SL35 died in 2004, but it's such a shame to leave those wonderfull lenses unused isn't it. >> SL 2000F: 35mm motorized Hasselblad. Some electronics not so reliable. >> Some upgraded to the more reliable SL 3003 electronics (like the one I'm >> selling - Hint, Hint...). > > This camera has the same mount and works with the old rollei QB lenses? Brief tutorial on Rollei mounts: The basic mount is the same, meaning all lenses can be used on all cameras, with some limitations. There are three main variations: "1 pin" are the original lenses made for the SL 35 and which require stop-down metering from all cameras. "2 pin" allows wide-open metering on all cameras which can do so, but don't show the selected diaphragm in the SL 2000F, 3001 & 3003 viewfinders. "3 pin" which will show the selected diaphragm in those cameras. It should be very easy to get a Rollei SL E on e.g. Ebay. Also one which works :-) .....many has died...... I have one which is perfect, but the camera rest in my house with a Zeiss 50/1.4 on it :-) .....nice lens but so are the Nikkors :-) Max >> Nikon's F mount goes back to 1959: For historical reasons it has one of >> the longest film-to-mount distances (as well as a relatively narrow [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Anyone has a spare Rollei SL something they would be willing to donate? > ;-) >Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >ps.: I am aware that this setup would mean I'd have to work all manual and >metering would not work (at least not on my cameras). You will probably get the best possible advice on what can and cannot be done from SRB in Luton, England. They are experts in making bespoke adapters and their work is done to very high standards, but at surprisingly reasonable prices: http://www.srbfilm.co.uk/ mailto:enquiries@srbfilm.co.uk >>I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge of a Rollei QB mount to Nikon F > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > http://www.srbfilm.co.uk/ > mailto:enquiries@srbfilm.co.uk The only one I see there for Nikon is M42 screwmount $35 and while they don't say, it does appear to use a correction lens to achive infinity focus. Here's some lenses of that type: http://www.wholesaledigital.co.za/m42home.htm South African pricing...  SignaturePaul Furman http://www.edgehill.net/1 Bay Natives http://www.baynatives.com >> http://www.srbfilm.co.uk/ >> mailto:enquiries@srbfilm.co.uk > >The only one I see there for Nikon is M42 screwmount $35 and while they >don't say, it does appear to use a correction lens to achive infinity >focus. I posted the email address so the person I replied to could contact SRB. I was recommending SRB's custom adapter service, not their stock items. Their expertise is second to none. If the adapter required is not available, they will either make you one or tell you why it is impossible. In the case you mentioned, infinity focus without an included lens element is presumably impossible to achieve because of the lens flange to film plane distances of the two mounts. |
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