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Flash update: Metz 45 CL-1

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Ricky G. Martin - 26 Oct 2006 16:27 GMT
Thanks again to all that responded to my inquiry about a flash unit for my
F2. Since the Metz 45 had multiple recommendations I decided to look into
that one. The reviews were impressive.

Next step was to check ebay. To make a long story, er ahh, shorter, I got a
Metz 45 CL-1 with charger, cable and manual, shipping and all for just under
$50.  :-)

The down side is that it doesn't come with the bracket to attach it to the
camera. Strangely, four out of five didn't have the bracket, and one
appeared to have a broken stub of a bracket. So, are these brackets prone to
breaking? Do people not use them so they get misplaced? Is there a generic
replacement? Easy to make one?

Once again, your help is appreciated..
.
Ricky
Philip Homburg - 26 Oct 2006 16:47 GMT
>Is there a generic
>replacement? Easy to make one?

I assume that the 45 will have a hole for a tripod screw.
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Nicholas O. Lindan - 26 Oct 2006 18:52 GMT
> I got a Metz 45 CL-1 ... doesn't come with the bracket to attach it to the
> camera.

Hmmm.  Hope it came with the clamp thingy that holds on to the bottom
of the flash handle.  The bottom portion fits into the clamp with a
dove-tail joint and a locking screw.  It may be possible to make/adapt
another bracket to take the Metz but I think it will be messy and not
very rigid.

I would find someone selling the bracket bottom piece.  TTBOMK
they are interchangeable in the 45 series, maybe even in the 60
series.

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Doug Payne - 26 Oct 2006 19:21 GMT
> Thanks again to all that responded to my inquiry about a flash unit for my
> F2. Since the Metz 45 had multiple recommendations I decided to look into
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> breaking? Do people not use them so they get misplaced? Is there a generic
> replacement? Easy to make one?

There's a couple on eBay right now.
Ricky G. Martin - 26 Oct 2006 20:57 GMT
> There's a couple on eBay right now.

Thanks! I found a Quick Release "buy it now" for $6.97
Chris Loffredo - 26 Oct 2006 19:22 GMT
> Thanks again to all that responded to my inquiry about a flash unit for my
> F2. Since the Metz 45 had multiple recommendations I decided to look into
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> breaking? Do people not use them so they get misplaced? Is there a generic
> replacement? Easy to make one?

I've actually never seen a Metz 45 series flash being sold without an
attachment bracket: They are an essential part of the flash.

The bracket itself is a cast metal piece which would be impossible to
break without using industrial strength machine tools. I've never heard
of one accidentally breaking!

My advice: Wait until you can get a complete flash (with bracket).
Again, in Europe the CT1 models (complete) often go for well under $50...
Peter Chant - 27 Oct 2006 00:16 GMT
> The bracket itself is a cast metal piece which would be impossible to
> break without using industrial strength machine tools. I've never heard
> of one accidentally breaking!

Plastic on the CL-1 I have.

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Ricky G. Martin - 27 Oct 2006 14:55 GMT
> Plastic on the CL-1 I have.

The replacement I found states in the description "The flash bracket is made
with the combination of metal & plastic". I guess that beats no bracket at
all.

Ricky
Chris Loffredo - 27 Oct 2006 15:38 GMT
>> Plastic on the CL-1 I have.
>
> The replacement I found states in the description "The flash bracket is made
> with the combination of metal & plastic". I guess that beats no bracket at
> all.

I've only used the CT series of flashes (45 CT1, CT-4 & CT-5); Their
brackets are mainly metal, with rubber or plastic inserts to keep them
from slipping.

I haven't used my brackets as crowbars or in extremely low temperatures,
but generally I've abused the flashes pretty often over several decades,
and they keep working (accurately).

Anyway, here you can get the user manual:
http://www.metz.de/en/photo_electronics/manuals.164.html
Chris Loffredo - 27 Oct 2006 15:22 GMT
>> The bracket itself is a cast metal piece which would be impossible to
>> break without using industrial strength machine tools. I've never heard
>> of one accidentally breaking!
>
> Plastic on the CL-1 I have.

Are you sure? I'd think that plastic wouldn't be strong/rigid enough.

Also, the pictures of the CL-1 brackets look exactly like mine (CT-
series brackets - I assume that they are the same).
Peter Chant - 27 Oct 2006 19:22 GMT
> Are you sure? I'd think that plastic wouldn't be strong/rigid enough.

The bit on the flash is a plastic block with a dovetail slot in it and a
sprung loaded pin held to the flash by a metal band.  The bracket that
screws onto the bottom of the camera and fits into the dovetail block is a
hard plastic with synthetic rubber pads on it.

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Tony Polson - 27 Oct 2006 00:21 GMT
>I've actually never seen a Metz 45 series flash being sold without an
>attachment bracket: They are an essential part of the flash.

On eBay UK it is quite common to see them sold without brackets and
cables.

>The bracket itself is a cast metal piece which would be impossible to
>break without using industrial strength machine tools. I've never heard
>of one accidentally breaking!

They snap quite easily in extreme cold temperatures.
 
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