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Starlord - 26 Sep 2006 23:25 GMT
I got an OLD Exacta Jhagaa, I belive this might have been made before WW22,
it's ser.# 541102, I got it for $50.00

Now I've owned other exactas before, but this one has me stumped, this one
was made before you could change the viewfinder. The trouble is, I can't
figure out how to advance the film, I can get it so the shuttle is 1/2 the
way back across and it stays there.And the mirror doesn't come down again
when I try to advace the film either.

Do you know of a camera repair shop that might be able to look at it and
tell me "IF" it's fixable?

My old Topcon super D is showing it's age too.

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Chris Loffredo - 25 Sep 2006 02:51 GMT
> I got an OLD Exacta Jhagaa, I belive this might have been made before WW22,
> it's ser.# 541102, I got it for $50.00
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>
> My old Topcon super D is showing it's age too.

The non-inchangeable viewfinder indicates a pre-war (or at least
pre-Varex) model.

It's probably fixable, unless some gears are actually broken, in which
case it might not be worth it.

You could check for any materials (film fragments) in the curtain runs
causing the jambing. Try advancing it while *gently* pulling the mirror
down.
While you're at it, with the back open & the lens off, try holding the
camera up to a bright light and see if there are any small holes
(pinholes) in the shutter curtain material.
Jim - 27 Sep 2006 00:12 GMT
>I got an OLD Exacta Jhagaa, I belive this might have been made before WW22,
>it's ser.# 541102, I got it for $50.00
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> My old Topcon super D is showing it's age too.

Have you conntacted any of the repairers of old cameras who advertise in
Shutterbug?
AFIK the postwar models were Exacta V, Exacta Varex, and the Exacta Varex
II.  Note that for copyright reasons, the models sold in the US were Exacta
VX and Exacta VXII.
I would suspect a problem with the shutter winding mechanism, and this might
not be economical to repair.
Jim
Starlord - 27 Sep 2006 00:58 GMT
I live in a small town out in the High Mojave desert, and don't do to the
bigger one but once a month, so it'll be after the 1st before I can pick up
a shutterbug magazine.

I wanted to find a show that could give me an estament and then I could pick
to have it fixed or just keep it as a display model.

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>>I got an OLD Exacta Jhagaa, I belive this might have been made before
>>WW22, it's ser.# 541102, I got it for $50.00
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> might not be economical to repair.
> Jim
Jim - 27 Sep 2006 00:14 GMT
>I got an OLD Exacta Jhagaa, I belive this might have been made before WW22,
>it's ser.# 541102, I got it for $50.00
Are you certain that it is not Ihagee?  That would be the manufacturer.
Jim

> Now I've owned other exactas before, but this one has me stumped, this one
> was made before you could change the viewfinder. The trouble is, I can't
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> My old Topcon super D is showing it's age too.
Starlord - 27 Sep 2006 01:02 GMT
Part of the front place is gone, all I see is (or lookes like it) J(odd I
maybe)hagee with Dresden under it and it was made before they made them to
interchange the viewfrinder from wastlevel to eyelevel. And the back comes
off totaly for film changing.

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>>I got an OLD Exacta Jhagaa, I belive this might have been made before
>>WW22,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>>
>> My old Topcon super D is showing it's age too.
Geoffrey S. Mendelson - 27 Sep 2006 06:51 GMT
> Part of the front place is gone, all I see is (or lookes like it) J(odd I
> maybe)hagee with Dresden under it and it was made before they made them to
> interchange the viewfrinder from wastlevel to eyelevel. And the back comes
> off totaly for film changing.

There was no I in German. The letter J was used instead. Ihagee was
spelled Jhagee. This was confusing to non Germans as the letter J also
was used as the English letter Y. After the second world war, the letter
I became commonplace, the J is still used as the English Y.

If the camera is 35mm look up "kine exacta" or "kine exakta". For
exacta that takes movie film, the original Exacta (which I think
was spelled with a K, but it's been a long time) took 127 film.

The cameras were made in Dresden from the 1930's until they were stopped
in the 1970s. I don't remember the exact wording, but the 1950's and 1960's
were also stamped "made in USSR occupied Germany", or
"made in occupied Germany" or "made in Germany (East)".

There was also a model made in the 1970's called the Exacta 500, which
had a fixed prism. If there are no markings on it, you can tell them
from the other exactas because it looks relatively modern and has a
vertical tubular shutter instead of the usual horizontal curtain.

Geoff.

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Starlord - 27 Sep 2006 16:01 GMT
Thanks, I didn't know about the no I, so this is a J. This one has theold
style flash holes (3 of them) on the front right side, not the moden but
probe holes which I've seen on older ones, this has the flat shutter
curtains. The top is the viewer that when you open it the top pops up two
sides go out and there's a mag lens that folds down over the fouces screen.
I know somewhere there was a listing of ser/numbers that told age, so I've
got to hunt for that and get a true age to this one.
Wow, I was just looking at it and I not sure what the numbers on the right
side top knob ment I move it to the #3 setting and found I can now cock the
film all the way arocss and fire the shutter as it should and the mirror
resets back down too.  The other exactas I owned where late 40's or early
50's and had the USSR stamp on them, this one doesn't have that.

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>> Part of the front place is gone, all I see is (or lookes like it) J(odd I
>> maybe)hagee with Dresden under it and it was made before they made them
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Geoff.
maark - 27 Sep 2006 17:45 GMT
Starlord napsal(a):
> Thanks, I didn't know about the no I, so this is a J. This one has theold
> style flash holes (3 of them) on the front right side, not the moden but
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> resets back down too.  The other exactas I owned where late 40's or early
> 50's and had the USSR stamp on them, this one doesn't have that.

The camera Exacta is very precise instrument. I own two cameras Exacta
Warex Ihaage and I photograph with them. Super optics.
rene
Starlord - 27 Sep 2006 20:19 GMT
I've gowned ones from either the later 40's or early 50's before, even had
the little brother EXA too, but when my trailer home was broken into back in
the late 80's, all my cameras, Exactas, Exa's,Lica IIIG, Topcon Super D
where ripped off and all my lens too. So it's been a long time rebuilding my
working collection, some are now out of my reach, and the two Super D's I
have need to have their shutter speeds checked and fixed. I lost a
Voltlander Bessamitic to a mortor shell over in Vietnam.

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> Starlord napsal(a):
>> Thanks, I didn't know about the no I, so this is a J. This one has theold
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Warex Ihaage and I photograph with them. Super optics.
> rene
Geoffrey S. Mendelson - 27 Sep 2006 20:21 GMT
> The camera Exacta is very precise instrument. I own two cameras Exacta
> Warex Ihaage and I photograph with them. Super optics.

They were. The problem with Exacta lenses came after the second world
war, where the lenese varied from "Aus Jena" (from Yena) which was the old
Zeiss factory, but could not use the name in the west, to Meyer Optic lenses
which were poor. At the height of their popularity, there even were some
Japanese lenses in the Exacta mount.

Geoff.

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Chris Loffredo - 25 Sep 2006 16:16 GMT
>> The camera Exacta is very precise instrument. I own two cameras Exacta
>> Warex Ihaage and I photograph with them. Super optics.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Zeiss factory, but could not use the name in the west, to Meyer Optic lenses
> which were poor.

Not all (or even most) Meyer lenses are "poor":

The Primagons, 30mm Lydiths, Tele-Megors (various focal lengths),
Orestor, Orestegor & others were very good lenses: Sometimes better than
the equivalent Zeiss Jena lenses.

Some of the low-range models were pretty dreadful, but that doesn't mean
that the whole range should be judged by the worst members of the family...
Tony Polson - 28 Sep 2006 07:44 GMT
>Not all (or even most) Meyer lenses are "poor":
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Some of the low-range models were pretty dreadful, but that doesn't mean
>that the whole range should be judged by the worst members of the family...

A friend has an Alpa collection with the usual 50mm f/1.9 Kern Macro
Switar and a couple of Angenieux lenses - all optically superb, as you
would expect.  But his choice of wide angle lens surprised me - yes,
it is a Meyer Lydith.  And despite the poor reputation, the results
from the Meyer lens are simply beautiful.
Chris Loffredo - 25 Sep 2006 21:27 GMT
>> Not all (or even most) Meyer lenses are "poor":
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> it is a Meyer Lydith.  And despite the poor reputation, the results
> from the Meyer lens are simply beautiful.

A Lydith is on My Rolleiflex 3003 right now (as an alternative to the
35mm Distagon).
:-)
Tony Polson - 28 Sep 2006 09:18 GMT
>A Lydith is on My Rolleiflex 3003 right now (as an alternative to the
>35mm Distagon).

Nice camera!  Always wanted one.  ;-)
Chris Loffredo - 25 Sep 2006 22:51 GMT
>> A Lydith is on My Rolleiflex 3003 right now (as an alternative to the
>> 35mm Distagon).
>
> Nice camera!  Always wanted one.  ;-)   

Being cynical: The size, price & weight of medium format with the
quality of 35mm...

But I still love it!
;-)
Tony Polson - 28 Sep 2006 10:25 GMT
>>> A Lydith is on My Rolleiflex 3003 right now (as an alternative to the
>>> 35mm Distagon).
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Being cynical: The size, price & weight of medium format with the
>quality of 35mm...

Or, the versatility of interchangeable film backs and finders with the
ease of use of 35mm film!

>But I still love it!

Yes, for the same reasons I want one!

;-)
Starlord - 27 Sep 2006 22:57 GMT
I won an auction last night for a 1954 Exa camera. I'm taking test shots
with my Exacta today.

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>> The camera Exacta is very precise instrument. I own two cameras Exacta
>> Warex Ihaage and I photograph with them. Super optics.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Geoff.
Michael Weinstein - 28 Sep 2006 05:20 GMT
> I got an OLD Exacta Jhagaa, I belive this might have been made before WW22,

Made before World War 22? WOW is that old!

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Starlord - 28 Sep 2006 20:44 GMT
Guess you've never had a old keyboard with stickey keys? This keyboard came
out of a trash can when the one I had became un-useable.

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>> I got an OLD Exacta Jhagaa, I belive this might have been made before
>> WW22,
>
> Made before World War 22? WOW is that old!
 
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