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opinions on the PANASONIC LUMIX DMC-FZ5K DIGITAL CAMERA?
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Leythos - 05 Jun 2005 16:56 GMT I've been looking for a new digital camera as my HP stopped producing quality images - sent it in for repair out of warranty and it worked for about 90 days and then quit focusing....
I'm considering, strongly, the PANASONIC LUMIX DMC-FZ5K DIGITAL CAMERA.
I must have the higher 10x Optical and I want the image stabilization and since I have a bunch of 512MB and 1GB SD cards it seems like the perfect fit. I also like the idea that I can use real filters/add-ons with the threaded lens.
So, anyone got one that want's to comment on it?
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John P . Bengi - 05 Jun 2005 18:18 GMT Panasonic does have some nice zoom lengths but after my 30 years of many, many Panasonic appliances and gadgets I wouldn't want their crap if you gave it to me.
Stick with the camera companies. There is a difference you only find out once you use them.
> I've been looking for a new digital camera as my HP stopped producing > quality images - sent it in for repair out of warranty and it worked for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > So, anyone got one that want's to comment on it? Jan - 05 Jun 2005 23:54 GMT > I've been looking for a new digital camera as my HP stopped producing > quality images - sent it in for repair out of warranty and it worked for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > So, anyone got one that want's to comment on it? I have an FZ-5.
Tomorrow, I am returning it.
I have an FZ-1, which I have upgraded to an FZ-2. Pictures I took with the FZ-1 are considerably sharper than the FZ-5. I believe the quality of the FZ-5 is not as good as the FZ-1 (or the FZ-20).
I ordered an FZ-20 from KEH, hoping it will be sharper - if not, it goes back also.
Meanwhile, I'm holding on to the FZ-1 ...
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Leythos - 06 Jun 2005 19:19 GMT > > I've been looking for a new digital camera as my HP stopped producing > > quality images - sent it in for repair out of warranty and it worked for [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Meanwhile, I'm holding on to the FZ-1 ... If you wanted a 5+MP camera, with image stability and 10x optical zoom, what you would get - from todays cameras available?
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Jan - 06 Jun 2005 19:41 GMT >>>I've been looking for a new digital camera as my HP stopped producing >>>quality images - sent it in for repair out of warranty and it worked for [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > If you wanted a 5+MP camera, with image stability and 10x optical zoom, > what you would get - from todays cameras available? The FZ-20 - even though it is discontinued.
Jan
Leythos - 06 Jun 2005 20:00 GMT > >>>I've been looking for a new digital camera as my HP stopped producing > >>>quality images - sent it in for repair out of warranty and it worked for [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > The FZ-20 - even though it is discontinued. I'm looking for new, under warranty, that I can purchase from a store or reputable online vendor. It doesn't have to be the Panasonic, what would you purchase if you had it all to do over again?
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Jan - 07 Jun 2005 14:16 GMT >>>>>I've been looking for a new digital camera as my HP stopped producing >>>>>quality images - sent it in for repair out of warranty and it worked for [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > reputable online vendor. It doesn't have to be the Panasonic, what would > you purchase if you had it all to do over again? I really wish I could give you a good answer, but for myself, right now I'm just winging it, although I am satisfied with how I have done so far.
FYI, I've done some spectacular work with the FZ-1 and I would probably pick it again - maybe with the FZ-2 upgrade.
I think two important pieces of your puzzle will be how proficient you are with post-processing, especially with Photoshop, and how good you are at learning (i.e, disciplined at teaching yourself) new ways to do things.
(Yesterday, I shot some film for the first time in perhaps a year. I forgot just how good you can do with the 'obsolete' stuff. Ask me the same question in a year and I might tell you stick with top film equipment and get used to scanning!)
If it's any comfort, you're not the only one trying to figure out this 'photographic new world order.' Let us know what you decide.
Jan
Leythos - 07 Jun 2005 15:35 GMT > >>>>>I've been looking for a new digital camera as my HP stopped producing > >>>>>quality images - sent it in for repair out of warranty and it worked for [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > are at learning (i.e, disciplined at teaching yourself) new ways to do > things. I've been using digital cameras for about 5 years, film for more than 25, and photoshop for more than 6, etc....
I have a Phaser 8400 wax/thermal printer I use for printing images, so I'm reasonably set for quality.
> (Yesterday, I shot some film for the first time in perhaps a year. I > forgot just how good you can do with the 'obsolete' stuff. Ask me the > same question in a year and I might tell you stick with top film > equipment and get used to scanning!) I have a couple older Minolta SLR's that I still love, but I've, like you, not shot anything in a while - I use to develop my own B/W, but it's harder and harder to find B/W in the local walmarts.
> If it's any comfort, you're not the only one trying to figure out this > 'photographic new world order.' Let us know what you decide. My Kodak DC4800 died a about a year ago - the quality was great, fast, etc... What I want now is something that takes a second shot quickly, has good quality for shots as far away as 100', and has a stability control for when I'm zoomed. I also want to get a mount for my 6" telescope.
I've read, in this group, the FZ5K image quality suffers, but all the web reviews say it's exceptional, and I would have to imagine that it's better than my old DC4800 (and it costs half as much).
I actually own 5 digital cameras right now, well, my kids own a couple, so I have access to 5 - none of them have any quality and are slow.
In the 1 year that I was able to use the DC4800 I took over 40,000 images that I've stored on our picture server (we have a large network in our home)
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Jan - 08 Jun 2005 00:42 GMT >>>>>>>I've been looking for a new digital camera as my HP stopped producing >>>>>>>quality images - sent it in for repair out of warranty and it worked for [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > images that I've stored on our picture server (we have a large network > in our home) With that said, it is I who should be asking you for advice...
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Leythos - 08 Jun 2005 02:37 GMT > > My Kodak DC4800 died a about a year ago - the quality was great, fast, > > etc... What I want now is something that takes a second shot quickly, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > With that said, it is I who should be asking you for advice... Jan, I like to think there is always something I can learn from anyone. That's one of the reasons I participate in Usenet (since 84).
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Jan - 08 Jun 2005 14:52 GMT >>>My Kodak DC4800 died a about a year ago - the quality was great, fast, >>>etc... What I want now is something that takes a second shot quickly, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Jan, I like to think there is always something I can learn from anyone. > That's one of the reasons I participate in Usenet (since 84). Very gracious.
Buy the FZ-5, but remember that, unlike the FZ-20, it does not have the ED glass elements. Also, as a proficient PS user, be ready to use the High-Pass focus method for sharpening, and median/levels/etc. for other touch up.
There, did I teach you anything?
Let me know what happens (and good luck).
Jan
Leythos - 08 Jun 2005 15:18 GMT > >>>My Kodak DC4800 died a about a year ago - the quality was great, fast, > >>>etc... What I want now is something that takes a second shot quickly, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > There, did I teach you anything? I've learned a little something with each post - I also keep a set of profiles for filtering each type of image - if I shoot one way I setup a set of filters that apply to all images taken with that method, saves time.
> Let me know what happens (and good luck). Have you purchased a polarizing filter for your digital? I normally purchase a Haze or peach filter (depends on non-people/people shooting) or a UV filter, but I was considering getting a UV and separate polarizing filter. I've seen some examples of with/without on the polarizing filter and it seems to eliminate much of the haze/whiteout which would eliminate a lot of work in PS.
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Jan - 08 Jun 2005 18:26 GMT >>>>>My Kodak DC4800 died a about a year ago - the quality was great, fast, >>>>>etc... What I want now is something that takes a second shot quickly, [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > polarizing filter and it seems to eliminate much of the haze/whiteout > which would eliminate a lot of work in PS. I have used a polarizing filter with the D100 plus an 80-400VR. I don't see much advantage. Never tried it on the FZ-1. I prefer to handle intensification in post-production- when I adjust levels, color balance, noise and saturation.
Where skies are concerned, I typically make my own and use them in the pictures. Skies I make are usually some kind of gradients+median, or I'll cut in something from a library of cloud pics I collect.
Why do I do this? Too often the sky is bland but the subjects are fine - or the subjects are uninteresting but the skies - especially at sunset - can be sensational.
You may wonder why I want to incur the additional PS work. Philosophically, my pictures are my 'art'. I'll get there any way I can - within reason.
Without putting too fine a point on this, lets just say that if I wanted to develop my skills as an equipment-based artist, I might just as well go back to film. (Obviously, there are other reasons why I don't, but you get the idea) Digital gives more possibilities - such as 'sky-management' - which might be insurmountable with film. These are the areas which I want to explore.
Personal preference - not for everyone.
Jan
Jan - 08 Jun 2005 22:30 GMT >>>>>> My Kodak DC4800 died a about a year ago - the quality was great, >>>>>> fast, etc... What I want now is something that takes a second shot [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > Jan OK. Now I'm ready to make an informed recommendation. Forget the FZ-5. Go for the FZ-20. KEH is a good source for it.
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imbsysop - 08 Jun 2005 10:43 GMT >> > I've been looking for a new digital camera as my HP stopped producing >> > quality images - sent it in for repair out of warranty and it worked for [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >If you wanted a 5+MP camera, with image stability and 10x optical zoom, >what you would get - from todays cameras available? Canon S2 IS .. 12x zoom
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