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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / Digital Photo / May 2005multi function printers
Any recommend reasonable multi function unit around the £100 - £150 mark? Looking at the HP PSC 2355, seems to be ok. The only thing was ink and relative costs of different brands. Also do these sorts of printers generally have to leave a boarder on prints? John Check at the manufacturer's website but I believe the Canon all in ones will print borderless. Try to avoid Lexmark! Please!  SignatureCari (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging) > Any recommend reasonable multi function unit around the £100 - £150 mark? > Looking at the HP PSC 2355, seems to be ok. The only thing was ink and > relative costs of different brands. Also do these sorts of printers > generally have to leave a boarder on prints? > > John > Any recommend reasonable multi function unit around the £100 - £150 mark? > Looking at the HP PSC 2355, seems to be ok. The only thing was ink and > relative costs of different brands. Also do these sorts of printers > generally have to leave a boarder on prints? > > John I recently bought an HP OfficeJet 4214x1 all-in-one, which combines printer, fax, and sheet scanner/copier. It cost US$90 at Costco, and it works quite well. Excellent photo prints, borderless if you like. I don't know what it costs in the UK, where everything seems to cost twice what it does across the Atlantic. Perhaps that should be made an issue in your forthcoming election. You don't have to be a Brain Surgeon to figure out the reason for the price disparity is because of the difference in the value of the "Pound" & the "Dollar" Don't know what you can do about it in the next election... Stay away from the HP if for no other reason than the Ink cost. HP ink prices are highway robbery... >> Looking at the HP PSC 2355, seems to be ok. The only thing was ink >> >> John [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > what it does across the Atlantic. Perhaps that should be made an issue in > your forthcoming election. > You don't have to be a Brain Surgeon to figure out the reason for the > price disparity > is because of the difference in the value of the "Pound" & the "Dollar" > Don't know what you can do about it in the next election... > Stay away from the HP if for no other reason than the Ink cost. > HP ink prices are highway robbery... Yes, HP ink prices are high. But the printers themselves are good all-around performers that aren't limited to Windows and MacOS, and where I live HP supplies are more readily available than other brands. I use an HP PSC2610 under both Windows XP and Linux, and it performs all four functions (printer, flatbed scanner, copier, fax) well regardless of which OS I'm booted into. Print quality (using the tricolor photo-ink cartridge along with the standard tricolor cartridge) is more than adequate for all but the most demanding users, and scanning quality is adequate. For those who run home or small-office LANs, the 2610 incorporates wired Ethernet (it can also connect via USB). The built-in memory card reader is nice, but not essential since such devices are fairly inexpensive. Sorry, it doesn't do borderless printing AFAIK. I chose HP because all my previous HP printers have given excellent service over long periods. I chose the PSC2610 because space considerations dictated an all-in-one and this model offered what I considered the best bang for the buck; it's even more attractive now that HP has cut (in the U.S. at least) $50 off the pricetag. It may be true than no AIO device can perform all its functions as well as separate units, but the overall quality is so high these days that AIOs are "good enough" for a lot of us. SignatureWalter Luffman Medina, TN USA Amateur curmudgeon, equal opportunity annoyer HP, like the rest, have cut $50 off the ink cartridges included in the package. > > You don't have to be a Brain Surgeon to figure out the reason for the > > price disparity [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > separate units, but the overall quality is so high these days that AIOs > are "good enough" for a lot of us. That may very well be true, but I have read where HP is manipulating people and sales by changing a number on a given ink tank and putting less ink in it... There's no doubt that this ink thing is the greatest scam of all times. Not only with HP but all of the makers. I read where the price of ink is somewhere in the $7000.00 a gallon category. That means you have to do all you can to beat them. Another point with HP, apparently if you are into refilling your own tanks, then beware because I read that the colour ID on at least some of their tanks is incorrect, and you certainly can't tell by looking at it. With Canon, the tanks are clear and individual, so you can see clearly what you are getting. Pricewise there is no comparison. They are also a lot easier to refill yourself. I have been doing this for some time now, and have saved a lot on my ink buying. > HP, like the rest, have cut $50 off the ink cartridges included in the > package. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> separate units, but the overall quality is so high these days that AIOs >> are "good enough" for a lot of us. For HP inkjet printers: If you only paid for the ink, bulk ink is around $1.35 USD per ounce if bought in a 32 oz bottle of black ink. A 45 cart is 42 ml or about 1.4 oz per refill or about $1.89 per refill. For the 23 cart, Color ink is about $1.25 USD per ounce per color if bought in 8 oz bottles. A 23 cart is 10 ml per color so about 1/3 oz per color or $0.42 per color times 3 colors = $1.26 per refill. For the 78 cart, Color ink is about $1.50 USD per ounce per color if bought in 8 oz bottles. The large 78 cart is 38 ml total, or about 12.5 ml per color. Or less than 1/2 oz per color, so about $0.75 per color times 3 colors = $2.25 per refill. If you have the 45 and 23 carts. http://inkjetsaver.com/45_23.html If you have the 45 and 78 carts. http://inkjetsaver.com/45_78.html Refilling is a messy job, but you can save some money, You can get at least 3 refills of a color cartridge, and many refills of the Black cartridge. You do not even have to refill your own cartridges, the above company will do it for you. With the HP cartridges you also get a new print head each time you put in a new cartridge. SignatureCSM1 http://www.carlmcmillan.com -- > That may very well be true, but I have read where HP is manipulating > people and sales [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >>> separate units, but the overall quality is so high these days that AIOs >>> are "good enough" for a lot of us. I'm not talking about individual ink tanks here. When I quoted that price per/gallon, I was referring to the big picture which included all ink tanks bought new. I got that info. from a website offering bulk ink and refill services. As for Refilling being messy, wear latex gloves. It doesn't have to be. After you get used to it, it's quite simple. I've been doing mine now for some time and wouldn't have it any other way. I do realize though, that it's not for everyone, but considering the prices out there for OEM tanks, something has to be done. Take for example where I live, A Canon tank for my Printer is about $20.00 I can now buy a generic tank for half of that...and I don't see much difference in the printing... > For HP inkjet printers: > If you only paid for the ink, bulk ink is around $1.35 USD per ounce if [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] >>>> separate units, but the overall quality is so high these days that AIOs >>>> are "good enough" for a lot of us. |
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